From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,9aa419a143a673b9 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!newscon04.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!newsdst01.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr25.news.prodigy.net.POSTED!4988f22a!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <13u5rikmodtea4d@corp.supernews.com> <47e4078f$0$23819$4f793bc4@news.tdc.fi> Subject: Re: Who's using Ada in industry? X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.134.78.194 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr25.news.prodigy.net 1206333528 ST000 70.134.78.194 (Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:38:48 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 00:38:48 EDT Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com X-UserInfo1: O@Y[R^[GZRRER_H]]RKB_UDAZZ\DPCPDLXUNNHLHEQR@ETUCCNSKQFCY@TXDX_WHSVB]ZEJLSNY\^J[CUVSA_QLFC^RQHUPH[P[NRWCCMLSNPOD_ESALHUK@TDFUZHBLJ\XGKL^NXA\EVHSP[D_C^B_^JCX^W]CHBAX]POG@SSAZQ\LE[DCNMUPG_VSC@VJM Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 04:38:48 GMT Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20555 Date: 2008-03-24T04:38:48+00:00 List-Id: This issue is easily resolved by simply adding a category for Software Engineering Tools. It is probably a good idea to have such a category. Richard Riehle ==================================================== "Niklas Holsti" wrote in message news:47e4078f$0$23819$4f793bc4@news.tdc.fi... > Michael Feldman wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> After several years of inactivity with the Ada project list, >> I've started to maintain it actively again. > > Very good indeed. > >> I don't want to pad the list >> with tools, compilers, libraries, etc., but rather to respond >> to the question "who is actually using Ada in industry?". > > I suspect that this exclusion of the SW tool industry from the definition of > "industry" may focus the list on the traditional Ada application areas -- > military and aerospace -- and exclude small or start-up Ada adopters in other > areas. This could reinforce prejudice against Ada in other areas and > especially in the SW tools area. > > I understand that a vendor of Ada compilers may be suspected of bias if the > vendor chooses to write the compilers in Ada. But the same should not happen > when a C compiler, or a language-neutral tool, is written in Ada. Moreover, I > believe that the reputation of Java has been boosted by the fact that many > tools for Java development are written in Java. Why should the same not be > true for Ada? If SW tool projects were listed under their own heading -- > perhaps as the last group -- they should not detract from the impact of the > other projects on the list. > > I admit that I am biased, as my own project (and that of at least one other > company in the same area, that I know of) are SW tools and thus apparently not > wanted on the list. Perhaps only large, expensive projects are wanted? In that > case it would be clearer to say so. > > -- > Niklas Holsti > Tidorum Ltd > niklas holsti tidorum fi > . @ .