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From: Brian May <bam@snoopy.apana.org.au>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada
Subject: Re: The future of Ada is at risk
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:46:11 +1100
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>>>>> "Agyaras" == Agyaras  <agyaras@kerekerdoe.hu> writes:

    Agyaras> The problem for many people starts earlier. Consider these two programs:-

    Agyaras> -- Ada (221 chars)
    Agyaras> with Ada.Strings.Unbounded, Ada.Text_IO.Unbounded_IO;
    Agyaras> use Ada.Strings.Unbounded, Ada.Text_IO.Unbounded_IO;

    Agyaras> procedure str is
    Agyaras> Strg: Unbounded_String := To_Unbounded_String("ergonomy");
    Agyaras> begin
    Agyaras> Put_Line(Strg);
    Agyaras> end str;

    Agyaras> // C++ (148 chars)
    Agyaras> #include <string>
    Agyaras> #include <iostream>
    Agyaras> using namespace std;

    Agyaras> int main(int argc, char *argv[])
    Agyaras> {
    Agyaras> string Strg("ergonomy");
    Agyaras> cout<<Strg<<endl;
    Agyaras> }

I find the Ada version easier to understand.

Also it is interesting to note that:

Put_Line(Strg);

Is shorter and easier to understand then:

cout<<Strg<<endl;

Where Ada misses out most, is the top two lines. Maybe it could have a
clause that does both "with"+"use" at the same time.
-- 
Brian May <bam@snoopy.apana.org.au>