From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,325c54deb91283fd X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-04-24 07:03:39 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!216.166.71.14!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.gbronline.com!news.gbronline.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 09:03:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 09:03:53 -0500 From: Wesley Groleau Reply-To: wesgroleau@despammed.com Organization: Ain't no organization here! User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, es-mx, pt-br, fr-ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada in Iraq References: <155qhxofl6d88$.dlg@parsec.no-spoon.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.117.18.108 X-Trace: sv3-7ZXOzmVVXjeGFmFiUBkc5EN/5FLM+9KyXiym3p63eRftgJXxYjhkf0n1XGaPumk4GzzxeWDgiRwvh2V!LG2kLPKX66ME/HRqUtmwaLfygKXNyJ18hIgrwUkpCM2EH0AzyDJKzUc0PWcbXJ4Io0jIMt0phb6Q!0IevGA== X-Complaints-To: abuse@gbronline.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@gbronline.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:36473 Date: 2003-04-24T09:03:53-05:00 List-Id: >>Give them the Boeing 777 story to read: >> hee-hee. Some said "Ada is too immature" How many of us know fifty-year-olds that never grew up? C is like that. C becoming Java is like Peter Pan finally reaching puberty. OK, let me be a little more serious. Can we partially equate "mature language" to "high-order language" ? I am just finishing up a college course in Java. Reflecting back on the good, the bad, and the ugly: Good: - All the times (not as many as I was led to expect) where I saved time by calling some existing standard library instead of writing my own. Bad: - All the times (not as many as I was led to expect) where I wasted time repeatedly writing low-level implementations of things that Ada has built in. Ugly: - Line after line of defined integer constants to get the readability benefits of enumerated types with not even a hint of their type safety. - Most "roll-your-own" imitations of high-level language features are seriously less readable than built-in versions. - (A.multiply(A)).add (B.multiply(B)) instead of A * A + B * B