From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Exclusive file access
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 09:33:42 +0200
Date: 2015-09-01T09:33:42+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5v6340pc6qm.1gwlbx5lbzyyh$.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ms2o9k$7i3$1@loke.gir.dk
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 18:34:12 -0500, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message
> news:mvil865iebyb$.1of2shk5faacq$.dlg@40tude.net...
> ...
>>> As long as you don't use Wide_Stringif you do use that, things get
>>> rather messy.
>>
>> Both are messy. Character and Ada.Text_IO was designed prior to Unicode.
>> Later amendments were futile attempts to repair what needed no repair.
>
> I would have said: "Later amendments were futile attempts to repair what
> needed replacement." since we have no choice but to support modern character
> sets in Ada. But the way to do that isn't by abandoning strong typing
> (Ada.Strings.UTF_Encoding) or by duplicating everything many times
> (Wide_Wide_String, which naturally leads to Wide_Wide_Text_IO which leads to
> Wide_Wide_Open which leads to Wide_Wide_Madness).
Agreed
> Since a sensible solution can't be done compatibility, we needed to start
> over -- but that's never had appropriate traction.
And good so, because without reworking the type system no reasonable
solution is impossible.
Either:
a. Encoding must be an interface, a view, of the string type decoupled from
its internal representation.
b. If the representation is the encoding, then the interface of an array of
characters must still be available.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-27 13:52 Exclusive file access ahlan
2015-08-27 14:27 ` gautier_niouzes
2015-08-31 23:20 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-09-01 16:23 ` Pascal Obry
2015-09-01 20:48 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-08-27 14:42 ` Björn Lundin
2015-08-27 14:48 ` G.B.
2015-08-27 15:08 ` Björn Lundin
2015-08-27 18:38 ` tmoran
2015-08-27 23:16 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-08-27 23:29 ` Pascal Obry
2015-08-28 7:25 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-08-27 15:15 ` ahlan
2015-08-27 18:29 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-28 5:41 ` ahlan
2015-08-28 7:10 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-08-28 17:40 ` ahlan
2015-08-28 19:49 ` Anh Vo
2015-08-28 21:06 ` Simon Wright
2015-08-28 21:38 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-08-29 7:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-08-29 8:31 ` Pascal Obry
2015-08-29 12:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-08-30 11:35 ` Florian Weimer
2015-08-30 12:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-08-30 19:37 ` Florian Weimer
2015-08-31 7:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-08-31 21:12 ` Florian Weimer
2015-09-01 7:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-09-07 18:27 ` Florian Weimer
2015-09-07 19:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-09-11 16:54 ` Florian Weimer
2015-08-31 23:34 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-09-01 7:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2015-08-29 16:07 ` gautier_niouzes
2015-08-29 17:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-09-01 12:37 ` brbarkstrom
2015-09-01 14:05 ` ahlan
2015-09-01 15:13 ` Simon Wright
2015-09-01 20:36 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-09-01 15:17 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-09-01 20:37 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-09-01 16:05 ` G.B.
2015-09-01 20:02 ` brbarkstrom
2015-09-01 21:17 ` Simon Wright
2015-09-05 15:52 ` Björn Lundin
2015-09-01 20:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-09-01 15:31 ` ahlan
2015-09-05 15:56 ` Björn Lundin
2015-09-06 17:38 ` brbarkstrom
2015-09-06 19:52 ` Björn Lundin
2015-09-07 15:18 ` brbarkstrom
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