From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,d5931b040ae9423f X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: New open source UML tool including Ada support References: <1184060318.279769.238890@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <7jfy3we76c.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> <1184083855.206336.304480@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> From: Markus E Leypold Organization: N/A Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:25:06 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Some cool user agent (SCUG) Cancel-Lock: sha1:tE8l6VT67Ds+qwdvgm/Ik/ermP0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.72.207.15 X-Trace: news.arcor-ip.de 1184105670 88.72.207.15 (11 Jul 2007 00:14:30 +0200) X-Complaints-To: abuse@arcor-ip.de Path: g2news1.google.com!news2.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!newsfeed0.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.unit0.net!newsfeed.arcor-ip.de!news.arcor-ip.de!not-for-mail Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:16464 Date: 2007-07-11T00:25:06+02:00 List-Id: > Markus E Leypold writes: > >> Quite right. I'm only trolling on the license situation since I'm >> probably already infamous for my destructive relationship to >> licensing. The problem simply is, that the page AFAIS doesn't state >> a license (so I can do everything with the tool I want? -- strange) >> and that we can't assume you get the tool under *GPL since you can't >> give it to others under that circumstances w/o source. > > Reading the terms of use it's not obvious what meaning 'open source' > has! > > Of course, since they say "You may not decompile, reverse engineer or > otherwise attempt to discover the source code of the software." it's > possible that the terms of use are still draft .. Oh, I see. In _Terms of Use_. I wouldn't have looked there for the license, actually. Somewhere else at the site it's stated, it _will_ be available under amodified LGPL. The press release is a bit early, 'cause it says "Under the terms of the Ameos open source agreement, a \u201cclean\u201d open source version of Ameos, called OpenAmeos, has been created to ensure that anyone installing a new version of Ameos will be able to use it freely without encumbrances of any other source contributions. This version is freely downloadable at http://www.openameos.org." -- which obviously isn't happening yet. So it's not open source yet, and as I said, I'll believe it when it happens. Not to stab the gift horse, but wasn't the last "free" give-away from AONIX the "you now pay only for support" campaign, which turned out to mean: "if you already bought something very expensive". Technically right, but the "as it is with Linux" spin was completely off the mark. (Am I resentful? Perhaps. Still I think, the best marketing is if one doesn't have to spin it to an extent that will simply disappoint anyone who is really trying to open the box: Some people resent being bullshitted :-), not very much, but I won't forget it either). So AONIX and ScopeSET: Really, really beautiful if all this will become true: I'm also speaking as an ex-teacher -- we've been missing tools like this sorely also and especially in teaching. The press release, though is a bit early: I won't count my chickens before they're hatched. Regards -- Markus