From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,e4b2dce209393666 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "Vladimir Olensky" Subject: Re: Business Week (12/6/99 issue) article on Software Quality Date: 1999/12/10 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 558732710 References: <82hk54$cbc$1@nntp6.atl.mindspring.net> <82kv5j$k6p$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <384eabe7.13628242@news.netidea.com> <82mlvh$mb0$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net> <82ochh$27p$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <82opns$7k2$1@nntp4.atl.mindspring.net> <384ffd52.888393602@newsnew.draper.com> Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Date: 1999-12-10T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Roger Racine wrote in message <384ffd52.888393602@newsnew.draper.com>... >On Thu, 09 Dec 1999 17:47:21 GMT, Richard D Riehle > wrote: >> <...> My point of view is simply that >>no other branch of engineering, except software practice, consistently >>uses the word "bug" to label its errors and defects. It will always be >>difficult to take software seriously as an engineering discipline as long >>as its practitioners insist on placing the blame for its mistakes on >>some mystical creature. It is a poetic appelation with little engineering >>value. >Electrical Engineers also use the term. Being electrical (telecommunications) engineer for many years I've never heard the term "bug" applied to anything in electrical engineering. What I've heard so far was "fault" or "defect" as most commonly used words in industry. One may encounter " faulty circuit" or "defective circuit" but not "buggy circuit" :-) Or at Draper laboratory this is different ? :-) I doubt this. May be long long time ago when relays were widely used in electric equipment that could be the case especially in tropics but now it sounds amusing. But I should admit that I've seen once such accident in one remote place not a long time ago . Wall clock with electrical mechanism which was not placed in the protective box was spoiled by cockroaches. Regards, Vladimir Olensky