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From: Ted Dennison<dennison@telepath.com>
Subject: Re: Ada2005
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:40:23 GMT
Date: 2001-12-12T18:40:23+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <rwNR7.59129$xS6.96048@www.newsranger.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: o8NR7.13079$7y.147028@rwcrnsc54

In article <o8NR7.13079$7y.147028@rwcrnsc54>, Mark Lundquist says...
>
>"Ted Dennison" <dennison@telepath.com> wrote in message
>news:nxKR7.58838$xS6.95364@www.newsranger.com...
>> Why would anyone want to? Isn't it rather stupid to allocate space in
>several
>> objects to a field that will always be the same? I understand why C++ does
>this:
>> they don't have packages to put their constants into. So if one wants to
>> associate a constant with a class, there is no choice but to do it this
>way and
>> waste the space.
>
>No... you can do this
>
>in Foo.h:
>
>    class Foo {
>        static int i;
>        .
>        .
>
>in Foo.C (typically):
>
>    int Foo::i = something;

Perhaps that might be marginally better for *some* purposes than doing the same
thing with a deferred constant in Ada. If you like the fact that the value is
hidden away in the body, you can get the exact same effect with an inlined
function if you really want to.

>I think what the OP means is something like a const data member in C++.  If
>so, he should learn about discriminants.

Ahhh. I thought the issue was class-wide constants. Either way though, you can
do this just fine in Ada today.

>> Perhaps there should be a revision in there to include a version of
>> Get_Line implemented as a function.
>
>...such as GNAT's Ada.Strings.Unbounded.Text_IO.Get_Line.  I think it would
>be great if that were added to the standard in a language revision.

Yes; basicly that, but returning "String" instead of
"Ada.Strings.Unbounded.Unbounded_String". Just toss it into Ada.Text_IO and be
done with the whole issue.


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  reply	other threads:[~2001-12-12 18:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-11  9:33 Ada2005 Peter Hermann
2001-12-11 11:05 ` Ada2005 M. A. Alves
2001-12-11 11:55   ` Ada2005 Aaro Koskinen
2001-12-11 14:49     ` Ada2005 Wes Groleau
2001-12-11 14:58     ` Ada2005 Marin David Condic
2001-12-11 15:18       ` Ada2005 Ted Dennison
2001-12-12  8:37       ` Ada2005 Alfred Hilscher
2001-12-11 11:23 ` Ada2005 Martin Dowie
2001-12-11 11:54 ` Ada2005 Preben Randhol
2001-12-11 12:06 ` Ada2005 Larry Kilgallen
2001-12-11 14:39 ` Ada2005 Ted Dennison
2001-12-12  4:39   ` Ada2005 Jeffrey Carter
2001-12-13 18:39   ` Ada2005 Randy Brukardt
2001-12-12 11:29 ` Ada2005 Peter Hermann
2001-12-12 12:42   ` Ada2005 Larry Kilgallen
2001-12-12 12:51   ` Ada2005 Martin Dowie
2001-12-12 12:59   ` Ada2005 Carsten Freining
2001-12-12 14:40     ` Ada2005 Peter Hermann
2001-12-12 15:16       ` Ada2005 Ted Dennison
2001-12-12 15:37         ` Ada2005 Larry Kilgallen
2001-12-12 17:49           ` Ada2005 Ted Dennison
2001-12-12 18:02         ` Ada2005 tmoran
2001-12-12 18:17           ` Ada2005 Ted Dennison
2001-12-12 18:31             ` Ada2005 Sergey Koshcheyev
2001-12-12 19:08               ` Ada2005 Ted Dennison
2001-12-12 18:14         ` Ada2005 Mark Lundquist
2001-12-12 18:40           ` Ted Dennison [this message]
2001-12-12 19:12             ` Ada2005 Mark Lundquist
2001-12-12 19:41               ` Ada2005 Ted Dennison
2001-12-13 20:07         ` Ada2005 Ted Dennison
2001-12-14  4:40       ` Ada2005 Patrick Hohmeyer
2001-12-14  9:55         ` Ada2005 Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-12-14 10:36         ` Ada2005 Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-12-17 18:40         ` Ada2005 Matthew Heaney
2001-12-12 18:04     ` Ada2005 Mark Lundquist
2001-12-12 21:25       ` Ada2005 Mark Lundquist
2001-12-13 18:40         ` Ada2005 Stephen Leake
2001-12-13 19:01           ` Ada2005 Mark Lundquist
2001-12-14 17:17             ` Ada2005 Stephen Leake
2001-12-13  9:11       ` Ada2005 Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-12-17 17:50         ` Ada2005 Ray Blaak
2001-12-18 11:55           ` Ada2005 Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-12-18 19:51             ` Ada2005 Ray Blaak
2001-12-19  8:34               ` Ada2005 Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-12-19 13:30                 ` Ada2005 Mark Lundquist
2001-12-19 18:23                 ` Ada2005 Ray Blaak
2001-12-19 18:20           ` Ada2005 Mark Lundquist
2001-12-19 19:19             ` Ada2005 Ray Blaak
2001-12-20 14:17             ` Ada2005 Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-12-20 11:24       ` Ada2005 Carsten Freining
2001-12-20 14:27         ` Ada2005 Mark Lundquist
2001-12-20 15:01         ` Ada2005 Matthew Woodcraft
2001-12-20 15:45         ` Ada2005 Mark Lundquist
2001-12-20 16:20           ` Ada2005 Mark Lundquist
2001-12-13 18:13     ` Ada2005 Georg Bauhaus
2001-12-20 16:34 ` Math Libraries (was Re: Ada2005) Marin David Condic
2001-12-20 20:14   ` FGD
2001-12-20 20:34     ` Marin David Condic
2001-12-21 17:21       ` FGD
2001-12-21 18:08         ` Marin David Condic
2001-12-21 19:40           ` tmoran
2001-12-21 19:45             ` Marin David Condic
2001-12-21 20:35             ` Dan Nagle
2001-12-21 20:31           ` Eric Merritt
2001-12-22 16:56           ` Math Update for Ada 2005 Steven Deller
2001-12-23 15:13             ` Robert Dewar
2001-12-23 22:43               ` Brian Rogoff
2001-12-22 21:48           ` Math Libraries (was Re: Ada2005) FGD
2002-01-02 14:20         ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2001-12-20 23:20   ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-12-21 14:49     ` Marin David Condic
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-12 14:05 Ada2005 Peter Hermann
2002-12-17  7:15 Ada2005 Karel Miklav
2002-12-17 11:43 ` Ada2005 Peter Amey
2002-12-17 15:11   ` Ada2005 Robert A Duff
2002-12-17 14:14 ` Ada2005 Ted Dennison
2002-12-17 15:54   ` Ada2005 Peter Hermann
2002-12-18  9:04     ` Ada2005 Anders Wirzenius
2002-12-18 14:48       ` Ada2005 Ted Dennison
2002-12-19  9:01         ` Ada2005 Anders Wirzenius
2005-03-24 14:36 Ada2005 Szymon Guz
2005-03-24 15:30 ` Ada2005 Xaelis
2005-03-24 15:32 ` Ada2005 Larry Kilgallen
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