From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.224.95.9 with SMTP id b9mr11979649qan.2.1397924492505; Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!m5no3332806qaj.1!news-out.google.com!dz10ni15217qab.1!nntp.google.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 11:21:32 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 12:21:32 -0400 From: Alan Browne User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: OpenSSL development (Heartbleed) References: <-OGdnezdYpRWFc_OnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@giganews.com> In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-zOirMcE7ET06yoiJ6bzB/UatqYi8Jx4t6xADWTfFJh0j0VOEYLiHtatRtqod9KPI8/ILpmJB/UFix8h!P3/6X9Xr5fbu5Rm4/6OKG76R1WJ1VfohAjLaTjgMXC/COYSt5zdJDdgmMH78SijFHJcnQOqvGA== X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3336 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:19426 Date: 2014-04-19T12:21:32-04:00 List-Id: On 2014.04.19, 11:47 , Yannick Duch=C3=AAne (Hibou57) wrote: > Le Sat, 19 Apr 2014 16:31:39 +0200, Alan Browne > a =C3=A9crit: > >> >> Good article in the NYT: >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/19/technology/heartbleed-highlights-a-c= ontradiction-in-the-web.html?ref=3Dbusiness >> >> > > I surely gonna be blamed for saying this, however what can be noted > here, is that a [political] movement which is always shouting at > commercial companies is at the same time always expecting funds from > them. How can you one be serious expecting the end of something while > organizing a dependency on this thing? Also, and that's not a surprise,= > nothing is expected from =E2=80=9Cordinary users=E2=80=9D, who do benef= it as much from > unsupported/unpaid jobs as commercial companies do. > > People should stop believing in miracles and magic formulas and become > responsible (all the people, not just the commercial companies as a wel= l > know political movement suggest). > > There is nothing one can get for strictly nothing (for a little fee may= > be practical, but not for strictly nothing), even with software (which > is not just a matter of copying files as a well known movement wants to= > make people believe). I hope someone will be able to bring back basic > economic principles in this area some day in the future. Another article in the NYT contrasts SSL to Linux. It points out that=20 the Linux foundation (of which St. Linus is a key employee) gets over=20 $6M / year in corporate funding (s. Wikipedia). http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/04/18/openssl-and-linux-a-tale-of-two-= open-source-projects Linux is a pretty reliable and solid OS. Having "one Master" (Torvalds=20 seems to still be the kernel merge master) and funding obviously helps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation#Members & Funding --=20 "Big data can reduce anything to a single number, but you shouldn=E2=80=99t be fooled by the appearance of exactitude." -Gary Marcus and Ernest Davis, NYT, 2014.04.07