From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,8623fab5750cd6aa X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 22:08:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:08:02 -0400 From: "Robert I. Eachus" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada BIND was: Improving Ada's image - Was: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics References: <40b9c99e$0$268$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk> <40ba315a$0$254$edfadb0f@dread16.news.tele.dk> <04udnR-eHNChzSbdRVn-vw@gbronline.com> <7J0xc.7371$8k4.269106@news20.bellglobal.com> <1086630278.542788@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <8xlxc.27603$sS2.845496@news20.bellglobal.com> <1086715817.122983@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <1086733411.736049@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3Auxc.11998$XY6.1296622@read2.cgocable.net> <40C85035.4020706@noplace.com> <40CA0032.3010103@noplace.com> In-Reply-To: <40CA0032.3010103@noplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.147.90.114 X-Trace: sv3-gZ64U64EzWr2UzLy0vqs5cWS5IAXbzA+oCYTq1C5xRdGuUhm8UXWfcJI6v0kLK02nEuZcEfHUcZ6vQy!mpY1yCjSJDHFDIX8Sg3HAvQBX7e2sfQasI0c1549M2BJRFmdgWJtUp6tsIreVQ== X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:1412 Date: 2004-06-11T23:08:02-04:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: > So if the protocol is weak and is the source of security errors, then > how does implementing the same protocol in Ada gain anything? Or would > it be "interesting" to watch a bunch of guys try to make it so by > rewriting the exact, same logic flaws in Ada? :-) > > OTOH, if you come up with a whole *new* protocol that is designed to add > security and other beneficial features, then perhaps you have that > elusive "Enhanced App" that adds genuine value? But, of course, the > value didn't get added just because it was written in Ada. No this is a case where implementing the protocols securely is what is needed. BIND doesn't do as much sanity checking as it should, and that provides openings for malicious hackers. -- Robert I. Eachus The ideology he opposed throughout his political life insisted that history was moved by impersonal tides and unalterable fates. Ronald Reagan believed instead in the courage and triumph of free men and we believe it all the more because we saw that courage in him. -- George W. Bush June 11, 2004