From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6487f59679c615d8 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Received: by 10.68.200.227 with SMTP id jv3mr329160pbc.6.1336662207010; Thu, 10 May 2012 08:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Path: pr3ni10279pbb.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 17:02:30 +0200 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: References: <82aa1ud0l3.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <20120509131736.63c924c8@vostro> <17qiwxc1yxhx7$.11tflala8jabh$.dlg@40tude.net> <4faa7790$0$9508$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <1qod0a82z1gx4.6ncrd98m7cz3.dlg@40tude.net> <2nfobsn64ovj$.yo1ugseoo72.dlg@40tude.net> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: FbOMkhMtVLVmu7IwBnt1tw.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: 2012-05-10T17:02:30+02:00 List-Id: On Thu, 10 May 2012 15:37:37 +0200, Yannick Duch�ne (Hibou57) wrote: > Le Thu, 10 May 2012 09:13:56 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov > a �crit: >>> Not for everything: for when a standard structured serialization is really >>> better (and that's often the case). >> >> I don't know what "standard structured serialization" is. > May be my English is not so good, sorry :P I meant, standard serialization > for structured data, structured as a tree, and potentially as a graph, via > IDs and IDREFs. Yes, XML would be a catastrophic data base management system. >> Which also reveals much about its usability. You don't need any tools to >> handle a *usable* thing. > > No? You don't need tool to check Ada source legality? Never used that thing. Ada compilers are validated. In doubt I rather ask our language lawyers here. BTW, XML is ever worse that just that. The "legality" you are talking about is merely stupid syntax checks, necessary because guys were unable to get the syntax right. It is not even close to what we understand under legality for Ada programs. XML is meaningless as a programming language. It does not define any semantics beyond counting opening and closing brackets. You can stuff any rubbish into XML. It is a presentation format, pure waste of bandwidth, absolutely useless. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de