From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 11cae8,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid11cae8,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public From: rmartin@oma.com (Robert C. Martin) Subject: Re: What is wrong with OO ? Date: 1996/12/06 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 202723959 references: <587veh$ng8@news3.digex.net> organization: Object Mentor Inc. newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lnag.java,comp.object,comp.software-eng Date: 1996-12-06T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <587veh$ng8@news3.digex.net>, ell@access5.digex.net (Ell) wrote: > : Robert C. Martin wrote: > > : >Much to my dismay, there are some OO methods that are promoting > : >the same scheme. The "analyst" draw nice pretty little diagrams, and > : >even run them through simulators to "prove" that they work. These > : >diagrams are then run through a program that generates code. Programmers > : >who maintain that code generator have to make sure that the "right" code > : >is generated. They have to make the program work. > > Are you saying that iterative and incremenatl diagrams are always wrong or > that the code generator has problems? Or both? I am saying that the creation of an elite "architecture team" composed of members who: 1. Dictate their decisions to the programmers. 2. Do no programming themselves. is a prelude to a disaster. Architects must first be programmers. Architects must continue to write some code. Architects must sell, or at least negotiate, their architectures with the developers. -- Robert C. Martin | Design Consulting | Training courses offered: Object Mentor | rmartin@oma.com | Object Oriented Design 14619 N Somerset Cr | Tel: (847) 918-1004 | C++ Green Oaks IL 60048 | Fax: (847) 918-1023 | http://www.oma.com "One of the great commandments of science is: 'Mistrust arguments from authority.'" -- Carl Sagan