From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FROM_WORDY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fc1b2,206c0414fb5fe3e X-Google-Attributes: gidfc1b2,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,21674edb667218cb X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 108abf,206c0414fb5fe3e X-Google-Attributes: gid108abf,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-06 20:32:02 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!feed.textport.net!news.stealth.net!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr16.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Ken Garlington" Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military,rec.aviation.military.naval,comp.lang.ada References: <945d79ff.0107312306.4665e855@posting.google.com> <3b67fd90_2@binarykiller.newsgroups.com> <421a7.235$0e7.91390140@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com> <3B6A1179.26C1C04@home.com> <3B6A15C3.8B3A9277@home.com> <3B6DE593.D172D839@home.com> Subject: Re: Ada (was Rival JSF teams fly final STOVL flights with flair, highlight strengths) Organization: ex-FlashNet, now Prodigy X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.67.103.208 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr16.news.prodigy.com 997155094 ST000 65.67.103.208 (Mon, 06 Aug 2001 23:31:34 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 23:31:34 EDT X-UserInfo1: FKPO@MC@OXTYBQPXGJJJOFL@YB\@QAPDLXUNNH\KMAVNDQUBLNTC@AWZWDXZXQ[K\FFSKCVM@F_N_DOBWVWG__LG@VVOIPLIGX\\BU_B@\P\PFX\B[APHTWAHDCKJF^NHD[YJAZMCY_CWG[SX\Y]^KC\HSZRWSWKGAY_PC[BQ[BXAS\F\\@DMTLFZFUE@\VL Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 03:31:34 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com rec.aviation.military:47097 rec.aviation.military.naval:11603 comp.lang.ada:11445 Date: 2001-08-07T03:31:34+00:00 List-Id: "Bob Fritz" wrote in message news:3B6DE593.D172D839@home.com... : If I really cared about Ada I would rebut these remarks essentially calling me a : liar. Suffice it to say that 23 years experience with DOD software including : participation in the Red/Green selection and the early Ada process through the : late 80s result in my statements. And my experience with DoD software, Ada applications, and contributions to the Ada language standard -- also starting in the early days of Ada, but then continuing through the 1990s and up to today -- indicates that your Ada experience (which apparently ended over a decade ago) may be out of date. Furthermore, there are contemporary references available from the Internet that support my statements. To choose one of my points at random: If you do not believe that there is a GNU compiler for Ada that is quite good and is free, with versions available for both Windows and Unix, you can download a version and see for yourself. Try the following sites for free downloads of GNAT version 3.13p: wuarchive.wustl.edu/languages/ada/compiler/gnat/distrib/3.13p/ cs.nyu.edu/pub/gnat/3.13p/ packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/gnat.html linux.davecentral.com/4634_programcomp.html Additional Ada tools (some released under the GPL) are available at: www.ada-france.org/ada-mode/ www.adapower.net/gtkada/ www.rrsoftware.com/html/prodinf/claw/clawintro.html libre.act-europe.fr/xmlada/ adabroker.eu.org/ If you like to buy support with your compiler, try www.gnat.com. (As an aside, I note that I used no personal attacks in my prior post -- certainly the word "liar" was never used. If you generally react this badly to the possibility that you might be wrong, how did you ever make it through 23 years of software engineering without a nervous breakdown? :)