From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1116ece181be1aea X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-09-19 01:14:06 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!tar-alcarin.cbb-automation.DE!not-for-mail From: Dmitry A. Kazakov Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Is the Writing on the Wall for Ada? Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:17:58 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8mgdmv08eaabv53vv5sofud2k40lbo0fdh@4ax.com> <6roimvg39s8h5ba64u9pn0trsa4d3u4kai@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tar-alcarin.cbb-automation.de (212.79.194.111) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1063958994 894879 212.79.194.111 (16 [77047]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:42678 Date: 2003-09-19T10:17:58+02:00 List-Id: On 18 Sep 2003 11:46:43 -0700, aek@vib.usr.pu.ru (Alexander Kopilovitch) wrote: >Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > >> Can't common people perceive scientifical concepts in the form of a >> vision? > >Sad to say, they can't. Come on! Everybody had a vision of a TV set. >Their recognition facilities aren't trained for that. Rather, they are well trained not to recognize it. >Science fiction literature in its best efforts tried to make a bridge for that, >but even the best authors - Isaac Asimov, John Wyndham, Stanislav Lem, Boris >and Arkady Strugatsky Hal Clement > - fell short of that; they mostly provided glimpses of >only human part of scientific environment, that is, human logic, human decision >mechanism etc. ... although some novels of them (especially of Asimov) may be >useful for an intermediate level, as it pertains to the scientific concepts. Honestly speaking, among these writers only Clement and maybe Strugatsky tried to show a science-oriented society, where knowledge, rather than money, is a measure of success. All others are considering space ships as granted. >> So the reason why religion is respected and science is not >> lies somewhere else than in a possibility to perceive the fruits of >> both. And fruits of science are far more visible than ones of anything >> other. > >Fruits of science can't be directly visible. All good (or arguably good) fruits >of science must first pass through engineering, It is no matter. Cash must also pass through a money access machine. Similarly as with science, people grown in rich families often despise money and become anarchists, socialists, anti-globalists, greens etc. They just take wealth [created by others] for granted. --- Regards, Dmitry Kazakov www.dmitry-kazakov.de