From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,da46977c58c329df X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-02-02 04:54:09 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!chnws02.mediaone.net!chnws06.ne.mediaone.net!24.128.8.70!typhoon.ne.mediaone.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Jeffrey Creem" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <3C58AE09.7070503@worldnet.att.net> <3C5A8A09.95084CAD@baesystems.com> <3C5B659A.7BAADE49@greenlime.com> Subject: Re: Ada's Slide To Oblivion ... X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2002 12:51:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.31.5.146 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mediaone.net X-Trace: typhoon.ne.mediaone.net 1012654294 66.31.5.146 (Sat, 02 Feb 2002 07:51:34 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2002 07:51:34 EST Organization: ATT Broadband Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19526 Date: 2002-02-02T12:51:34+00:00 List-Id: Don't forget to point out to the non-embedded people that there are very nice Ada bindings available under windows for ALL COM libraries. This is a big deal since there are thousands of libraries that have COM interfaces. "Adrian Hoe" wrote in message news:3C5B659A.7BAADE49@greenlime.com... > Marin David Condic wrote: > > > > Like I said - it depends on what you want to count. We could discuss that > > until the cows come home. Clearly, some consumer-oriented box with 5000 > > lines of C code in it is not really in the same league with an F-22 with > > millions of lines of Ada code in it. But last I heard the government was > > only going to buy a few hundred F-22s over the project life whereas the > > little 5000 line C doohickie might be selling in the millions of units. So > > which is the more "important" project and how would you stack them up with > > respect to which is the more "important" programming language for embedded > > systems? > > > > I still don't think that any way you want to count it that Ada is going to > > score as a major player in the embedded computing world anymore. It's kind > > of relegated to the "also ran" category - which is a shame because lots of > > people will admit that it really is a good language for embedded computing. > > There are just a lot of factors that hinder its success in this area. > > > > I think that as Ada continues to grow in the non-embedded fields it will > > start encouraging more usage in the embedded world. Tools become more > > prevalent and experience builds with it and along the way it will trickle > > into the embedded world. But it will be a slow process and it is dependent > > on how successfully Ada penetrates the more "normal" sorts of application > > development. > > More people are accepting Ada now, at least in my company (new staff). > Ada will not have the glory of other development tools eg. C++ Builder, > Delphi, etc. until much bindings are available for programmers' > disposal. GtkAda and Glade are just the beginning. There is still a long > way to go for Ada to be accepted in the non-embedded, business > applications area. > > > MDC > > -- > -- Adrian Hoe > -- http://greenlime.com/users/adrian.hoe