From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,52a0bacbcdd2da17 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-08-14 10:06:42 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!news.uunet.ca!nf3.bellglobal.com!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Realtime/embedded project to help with employment. References: <3F367B39.8060108@noplace.com> <1060611604.45048@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3F38DEBC.8040208@noplace.com> <3F3A33EE.90900@noplace.com> <1060795239.445526@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3F3B8A82.4030607@noplace.com> In-Reply-To: <3F3B8A82.4030607@noplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 12:51:46 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.96.223.163 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1060879894 198.96.223.163 (Thu, 14 Aug 2003 12:51:34 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 12:51:34 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:41462 Date: 2003-08-14T12:51:46-04:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: > Hyman is absolutely right. How can you suggest that they got their > market dominance in any other way than being successful businessmen? Did > they get it by government fiat? There was a law passed that gave them > the total market? Communism came back and nobody noticed? > > They got big because people bought their products. > > MDC Robert Lief brought up a good point in an email to me (cc this group?) that M$ has also been very lucky to have competetors that bungled any chance of successfully competing with them (OS/2 was named as one example). > Preben Randhol wrote: > >> Hyman Rosen wrote: >> >>> Warren W. Gay VE3WWG wrote: >>> >>>> Their success? M O N O P O L Y >>> >>> They have a monopoly because they are so successful, >>> not vice versa. >> >> No I don't think the reason for their current MONOPOLY, makes much difference now. Because they enjoy this current advantage, they are likely to for the forseeable future, unless they bungle it themselves, or something else becomes a serious choice for most consumers (Linux/Mac?) The point is, they now enjoy a monopoly, regardless of how they got there. -- Warren W. Gay VE3WWG http://home.cogeco.ca/~ve3wwg