From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,TO_NO_BRKTS_FROM_MSSP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7ee10ec601726fbf X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-09 07:10:57 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!cyclone1.gnilink.net!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-austin!propagator!feed2.newsfeeds.com!newsfeeds.com!newsranger.com!www.newsranger.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada From: Ted Dennison References: Subject: Re: is Ada dying? Message-ID: X-Abuse-Info: When contacting newsranger.com regarding abuse please X-Abuse-Info: forward the entire news article including headers or X-Abuse-Info: else we will not be able to process your request X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsranger.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 10:10:29 EDT Organization: http://www.newsranger.com Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 14:10:29 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:14014 Date: 2001-10-09T14:10:29+00:00 List-Id: In article , Michael Bode says... >Maybe this excerpt from the Jargon File explains why hackers are not >mainly coding in Ada: >(having programmed in C[++] some time I personally think is a good >reason to give Ada a try) The Jargon file is maintained by a single rather opinionated person, who happens to hold quite a few rather outlandish opinions. Politics aside (after the WTC bombings he tried to seriously argue that everyone on airplanes should carry firearms...), he holds some rather "unusual" opinions about software engineering. Generally, anything that isn't C or Perl is crap, as far as he's concerned. He's actually a really smart guy, and can reach some very good and valid conclusions, when he starts off from postulates that everyone can agree with. But when he doesn't, you can find yourself off into some non-Euclidian logic universe where 1 = 0. The problem is that its tough to judge whether he came a reasonable postulates with any of his opinions in the Jargon file. So generally you are much better off ignoring that file altogether and relying on FOLDOC (http://www.foldoc.org ). Its entry for Ada includes the following: Ada is often criticised, especially for its size and complexity, and this is attributed to its having been designed by committee. In fact, both Ada 83 and Ada 95 were designed by small design teams to be internally consistent and tightly integrated. By contrast, two possible competitors, Fortran 90 and C++ have both become products designed by large and disparate volunteer committees. --- T.E.D. homepage - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.