From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!newsfeed.xs3.de!io.xs3.de!news.jacob-sparre.dk!franka.jacob-sparre.dk!pnx.dk!.POSTED.rrsoftware.com!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Examining individual bytes of an integer Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 15:18:14 -0500 Organization: JSA Research & Innovation Message-ID: References: <9d90fa3e-f800-4086-bf97-a65474a8140a@googlegroups.com> <4ddbc9bf-0e2e-466d-8238-d8f709b985e1@googlegroups.com> Injection-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 20:18:15 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: franka.jacob-sparre.dk; posting-host="rrsoftware.com:24.196.82.226"; logging-data="19176"; mail-complaints-to="news@jacob-sparre.dk" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.7246 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:54599 Date: 2018-10-15T15:18:14-05:00 List-Id: "Niklas Holsti" wrote in message news:g2k5fbF9thnU1@mid.individual.net... > On 18-10-15 13:18 , AdaMagica wrote: >> Am Sonntag, 14. Oktober 2018 23:28:57 UTC+2 schrieb Niklas Holsti: >>> Not guaranteed, but implied by the "Implementation advice": >>> >>> - RM 13.3(11): X'address denotes the address of the first of the >>> storage elements allocated to X. >>> >>> - RM 13.3(14): For an array X, X'Address should point at the first >>> component of the array [...]. >>> >>> Combining those two, it seems that the first element of an array >>> should start at the first storage element (= lowest address) >>> allocated to the array. >>> >>> By reasonable induction :-) the second, third, etc. array >>> elements follow in increasing address order. But not _guaranteed_, >>> I agree. >> >> There is the old Dewar rule that no compiler is doing nonsense. It >> would be a very unfriendly compiler to not follow this advice. > > As I remember it, Dewar's rule says that the Ada *RM* does not specify > nonsense, meaning that if some reading of the RM seems to be nonsense, it > is the wrong reading. That's correct. > I don't remember Dewar saying anything similar about compilers. Me either. Compilers do nonsense all of the time (usually not on purpose, though). Randy.