From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f5d71,304c86061dc69dba X-Google-Attributes: gidf5d71,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,304c86061dc69dba X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,304c86061dc69dba X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-02-08 11:06:14 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!199.45.49.37!cyclone1.gnilink.net!peer01.cox.net!cox.net!p01!lakeread02.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Josh Sebastian Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping language) User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2 (This is not a psychotic episode. It's a cleansing moment of clarity. (Debian GNU/Linux)) Message-Id: Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java References: <20040206174017.7E84F4C4114@lovelace.ada-france.org> <54759e7e.0402071124.322ea376@posting.google.com> <2460735.u7KiuvdgQP@linux1.krischik.com> <1806342.U8nlC1YBRp@linux1.krischik.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 14:06:11 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.96.215.227 X-Complaints-To: abuse@cox.net X-Trace: lakeread02 1076267171 68.96.215.227 (Sun, 08 Feb 2004 14:06:11 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 14:06:11 EST Organization: Cox Communications Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:5344 comp.lang.c:21197 comp.lang.c++:18164 comp.lang.java:2780 Date: 2004-02-08T14:06:11-05:00 List-Id: On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 19:02:02 +0100, Martin Krischik wrote: > Josh Sebastian wrote: > >> On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 14:05:53 +0100, Martin Krischik wrote: >> >> Factoid: Alex Stepanov started off his research that led to the STL in >> Ada. > > I am not quite shure what you want to say. I was saying that the STL started off in Ada before it was moved to (and completed in) C++. I wasn't disagreeing with you (yet :). >>> Ada templates are far more powerfull then C++. >> >> Why do you say that? I haven't used Ada terribly much, but from what I >> remember, I don't think Ada generics are Turing-complete, which C++ >> templates are. > > Well I have used C++ for 10 years and Ada for just 1 year - I can express my > will better with Ada generics then with C++ templates. Maybe you just weren't very good at C++ templates. I don't mean to be insulting, but personal preferences do play a huge roll here. Unless someone can prove Ada's generics are Turing-complete, though (a quick google doesn't turn up anything), I'd say that we'll have to call C++ templates more powerful. Josh