From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,38159b1b5557a2e7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-01-27 19:57:38 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!chcgil2-snh1.gtei.net!news.bbnplanet.com!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Starner Subject: Re: Standard Ada Preprocessor User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2 (This is not a psychotic episode. It's a cleansing moment of clarity. (Debian GNU/Linux)) Message-Id: Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <100upo7ln5e3k59@corp.supernews.com> <400FC8E8.2040100@noplace.com> <_JSdna166JuxFo3dRVn-hg@comcast.com> <401115B7.5020205@noplace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:57:37 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.72.183.212 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1075262257 12.72.183.212 (Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:57:37 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 03:57:37 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4976 Date: 2004-01-28T03:57:37+00:00 List-Id: On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:50:19 -0500, Stephen Leake wrote: > As a paying customer, I get fast and excellent response from ACT. I > have submitted many bug reports. I'm not doubting that. >> There are two GCC frontends in risk of being dropped in the GCC 3.5 >> release because of large structural changes; Fortran 77, which has >> no active maintainers, and Ada. The cumulative effect is that GNAT >> is effectively unsupported, where most of the other compilers >> (Fortran 77 excepted) are casually supported. > > I don't know where you get your information; ACT says otherwise. In Richard Kenner writes: *** > As it is today, it is impossible to build an Ada compiler with the > branch. [...] At some point in the not too distant future, the Ada front end will handle function-at-a-time and then converting it to using tree-ssa might be something that the tree-ssa folks can either do or help with, but I don't see this is a major timing issue: even if we had one release of GCC (say 3.5) that didn't support Ada, it wouldn't be fatal and should not hold up tree-ssa if it were ready before the Ada conversion was done. *** It's a long thread, and Robert Dewar and Richard Kenner restate that basic point a few times. > They > are making it a high priority to keep the Ada in the gcc distribution > working and up-to-date. In Arnaud Charlet writes *** [...] Note that GCC 3.3 contains a pretty bad Ada compiler (possibly worse than 3.2 which was not very good either), so it is not recommended to use it for anything else than bootstrapping newer versions as far as Ada is concerned. *** GCC 2.95 was the first release of GCC after the EGCS branch became mainline. There was almost four years between that release and GCC 3.3, and they have not produced a compiler that runs on the post-EGCS code that they consider good. > Getting the facts is always a good idea ... Yes, it is.