From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3dc908471c2a25ec X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-11-25 13:44:24 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!attbi_s53.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Freejack Subject: Re: My Ada Future Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Message-ID: References: <20031125081548.89AB44C40CA@lovelace.ada-france.org> User-Agent: Pan/0.11.4 (Unix) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Comment-To: "Ekkehard Morgenstern" NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.245.85.50 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: attbi_s53 1069796663 12.245.85.50 (Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:44:23 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:44:23 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 21:44:23 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:2942 Date: 2003-11-25T21:44:23+00:00 List-Id: On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:47:18 -0500, Ekkehard Morgenstern wrote: > "Andrew Carroll" schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:mailman.51.1069760632.3110.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org... >> So what does the employment market for Ada look like from your point of >> view? Would you recommend "going Ada" to your friends? What are some >> programs I can write, that you know are impressive in the Ada "market", >> to demonstrate my skills? Any advice to offer? Best place to look for >> Ada jobs? Anyone looking for a volunteer or employee? > > I'm wondering about this as well. Any advice appreciated! :-) > > Ada is beginning to become my favourite programming language, and I'd > like to know as well where I could look for an Ada job. :-) Well people, the best thing to do it would seem, at this point in the game, is to carve out our own market. I'm typically finding that experienced Ada developers have the discipline to outperform many of thier counterparts in the software industry. This is also becoming evident with Eiffel and Forth developers too. Not so much because these are "better" languages per say, but rather because the languages have a tendency to train thier users into a more rigorous method of accomplishing things. Hehe. The unfortunate reality is that most people expect C/C++/Java/VB skills from thier developers. That's why I say that we need to carve out our own market. Maybe start off simple. Replace some existing Shareware with your own that's about 10 times better than the one your replacing. Write some critical OSS or Free Software applications which apply Ada as the tool of choice. And polish it. Contribute to the Ada Web Server project and AdaSockets. Work on PolyORB. Then demo those apps to employers. Unfortunately managers are still caught in the language du jour mindset of the 90's. It's gonna take a bit more work to break that mold. For what it's worth, that's my two cents. Freejack