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From: "Luke A. Guest" <laguest@__n_o_s_p_a_m__abyss2.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Realtime/embedded project to help with employment.
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 19:39:08 +0100
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On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:08:01 +0200, Mark Lorenzen wrote:

> If you want to wotk with something that is "done rigth", then learn a
> good craft. Software will always be hacked together due to time
> pressure and management incompetence.

Ok, I really cannot believe that the embedded side would be that bad,
surely planes, cars, etc. wouldn't be safe.
 
>> that kind of jobs does *seem* to start paying around the £35,000 - £40,000
>> mark, it's just a matter of getting in there (a bit of Java learning).
> 
> Then you definitely do not want to be a software engineer, but a
> manager.

First, I DO NOT want to be a manager, too much bullshit and not enough
actual knowledge...pen pushing...no way!

Secondly, there are jobs that pay that much and more, they're just don't
seem to be in this side of the industry.

Thirdly, I really think that that kind of sum is reasonable for a software
developer, especially living in London. Nobody can expect to live on
anything less than £35,000 in London, it's just a joke.

Luke.