From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ac39a12d5faf5b14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-11 01:37:30 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.uchicago.edu!yellow.newsread.com!bad-news.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Eric G. Miller" Subject: Re: Development process in the Ada community Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Message-ID: References: <3CB46975.90408@snafu.de> <3CB516E1.9030008@snafu.de> User-Agent: Pan/0.11.2 (Unix) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Comment-To: "Michael Erdmann" Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 08:37:29 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.119.46.78 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1018514249 216.119.46.78 (Thu, 11 Apr 2002 01:37:29 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 01:37:29 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22347 Date: 2002-04-11T08:37:29+00:00 List-Id: In <3CB516E1.9030008@snafu.de>, Michael Erdmann wrote: > I personally think this way of working is fairly outdated since > it does not realy take the internet as a comminication media into > accout. > If you compare Ada 95 with Java, then the interesting points are > not the languages it self, but the quick development of supporting > components around it. If you take Ada 95 there is only a very > limited set of predefined libraries standarized and thats it, > nothing else. With JPC this is completly different! How many changes in the Java language have occurred in the last ten years? How many are fully backwards compatible? Java aims to be a whole platform, but it's a moving target. What about developers who want their libraries and programs to be relevant for more than a couple years? IMHO, rapidly changing languages present a double edged sword. I think the goals of the two languages are somewhat orthogonal. I don't think there will ever be a "one size fits all" language. The safety and security features of Ada are very important to some folks, for instance. Oh, btw, this "outdated mode" of standardization is one thing that drew me to start using Ada vs. something like Java [tm], which is owned by Sun.