From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4b06f8f15f01a568 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public From: Martin Dowie Subject: Re: Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful) Date: 1998/09/01 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 386830346 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: dowie-cs.demon.co.uk:193.237.34.207 References: <6qfhri$gs7$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35cb8058.645630787@news.ne.mediaone.net> <902934874.2099.0.nnrp-10.c246a717@news.demon.co.uk> <6r1glm$bvh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6r9f8h$jtm$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6renh8$ga7$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6rf59b$2ud$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6rfra4$rul$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35EB3B71.ED6D4066@ibm.net> <6sfr1m$gi7$1@hirame.wwa.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 904667658 nnrp-01:1729 NO-IDENT dowie-cs.demon.co.uk:193.237.34.207 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-09-01T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <6sfr1m$gi7$1@hirame.wwa.com>, Robert Martin writes > >Biju Thomas wrote in message <35EB3B71.ED6D4066@ibm.net>... >>Robert I. Eachus wrote: >>> >>> In article "Frank Adrian" > writes: >>> >>> > Again, the tasks you mention should be subsumed by code generators or >>> > higher-level design packages, not wasting programmers' time wondering >if >>> > they got the goto in (and pointing to) the right place. >>> >>> A fine point of view for an application developer. But there are >>> those of us who build tools like compilers, scanner generators, parser >>> generators, etc. Your code may not have gotos, and my code may not >>> have gotos, but when you use my tools to generate your code, don't be >>> surprised to find occasional (or not so occasional) gotos. >> >>These tools may be generating gotos since they are decades old, and >>nobody ever tried to improve upon them. > >As long as the generated code does not have to be maintained, it doesn't >matter if it generates goto's or not. absolutely - otherwise we'd be arguing against compilers/linkers generating assembler language 'jump' statements -- Martin Dowie