From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: requiring Ada(2020?) in self-driving autonomous automobiles Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 10:58:37 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <3c3d7301-c0dd-4953-bce1-5ac4050457a8@googlegroups.com> <139fa27c-2f53-4758-81ba-dd403a30e4ef@googlegroups.com> <21e81c06-9352-407d-891c-ec54eed1b249@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: MyFhHs417jM9AgzRpXn7yg.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.3 Content-Language: en-US Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:51314 Date: 2018-04-03T10:58:37+02:00 List-Id: On 02/04/2018 23:06, Robert I. Eachus wrote: > Now what I want to know is how that level of training is going to get > into a self-driving car.  The necessary data could be picked up from the > records of other drivers.  Maybe Deep Learning can figure it out.  But I > won't hold my breath. These are ones of major machine learning problems: - Knowledge extraction - Reinforcement learning Humans can explain things, forget things, do erratic things time to time. This is how it works with us based on our worldview, moral, ethics, instincts etc. How would it work with an NN? Well, most likely it will not. But it is possible that the solution will be to replace the original problem with something else. Cars were designed around the human driver. If you cannot replace the driver, replace the car, the road etc. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de