From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,ae0c567a4b40a4ee X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada bindings to Linux GUI toolkits ? References: <5Kzqg.19973$FQ1.16552@attbi_s71> From: M E Leypold Date: 05 Jul 2006 00:55:07 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Some cool user agent (SCUG) NNTP-Posting-Host: 88.72.240.102 X-Trace: news.arcor-ip.de 1152053308 88.72.240.102 (5 Jul 2006 00:48:28 +0200) X-Complaints-To: abuse@arcor-ip.de Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.arcor-ip.de!news.arcor-ip.de!not-for-mail Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:5523 Date: 2006-07-05T00:55:07+02:00 List-Id: "Jeffrey R. Carter" writes: > M E Leypold wrote: > > The GMGPL interested community would have to maintain (i.e. bugfix > > and > > conservatively extend) the GMGPL version for the next years. Is it big > > enough? > > Or else live with the last GMGPL version. "Live with" without the option of conservative maintenance sounds pretty much like a dead end. One reason to decide for the main stream (Gtk) is the continued developement, in backend and interface. Writing now a software based on something that will become more and more unbuildable within the next years seems to be a waste of time. Personally I never ever build infrastructure on something that is not maintained any more or doesn't have community debugging it. Considering all the answers that I got on the bugs in Gnat 3.15p (which is after all in current Debian) that told me, that 3.15p is dead dead dead, I can imagine what answers anyone will get (here in c.l.a) when asking about GtkAda 2.4.0 problems in some months: It will go like this: - "Got problem with GtkAda 2.4.0 [...] " - "Oh man / good grief, that has been fixed looong ago. Just use a current GtkAda." - "There is no newer GMGPL GtkAda" - "The new version is GPL, just take that?" - "Cant't use GPL" - "Why not?" - "I, want to link closed source." - "Just buy support or free your software! You wouldn't want to restrict the freedom of your cusomers?" - "But ..." >From there the discussion quickly spins out of control, without actually addressing the initial technical problem again. Mind you, that I'm not reproaching anyone that the recent discussions went like they went. They were rather instructive to me. But the thought experiment "What will I do when I think I found a bug in an already dusty version?" should make clear, that using an old version will not really be fun. Regards -- Markus