From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Alejandro R. Mosteo" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Killing software and certification Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 15:54:24 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <9ed9edb1-3342-4644-89e8-9bcf404970ee@googlegroups.com> <26a1fe54-750c-45d7-9006-b6fecaa41176@googlegroups.com> <656fb1d7-48a4-40fd-bc80-10ba9c4ad0a4@googlegroups.com> <0e59a988-ed21-4e45-a2ed-7a51995dbe6c@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 13:54:26 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: h2725194.stratoserver.net; posting-host="460fb46a4c0350d70ba2f75d850e57e2"; logging-data="5555"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/lqC39px3bz5qwgs2cWgLS" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Cancel-Lock: sha1:gVGH45ICem/vZbfsRXTqsGwP3+w= Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:51228 Date: 2018-03-28T15:54:24+02:00 List-Id: On 28/03/18 02:04, Randy Brukardt wrote: > "Dan'l Miller" wrote in message > news:0e59a988-ed21-4e45-a2ed-7a51995dbe6c@googlegroups.com... > ... >> ... it is up to the consumer to read the label on a product to see whether >> the product has been designed and manufactured in accordance with >> various voluntary regimes of best-practices in industry-standards. > > That's surely helpful for the lady that was run over crossing the street. Yes, that's where the informed consumer idea falls somewhat apart. > Self-driving cars have safety requirements near those of avionics software. > But the actual requirements on such software is far from the same. I'm > afraid it will take a bunch of lawsuits to get the automakers in line, and > quite possibly not even that. (I hear they actively want to avoid making > software that actually is known to work.) That would be to be able to ignore that it deviates from expected performance? Álex. > > Randy. > > > >