From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DIET_1 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada-Oriented GUI Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 21:06:59 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <9ed9edb1-3342-4644-89e8-9bcf404970ee@googlegroups.com> <26a1fe54-750c-45d7-9006-b6fecaa41176@googlegroups.com> <656fb1d7-48a4-40fd-bc80-10ba9c4ad0a4@googlegroups.com> <7649c01e-53d7-4734-bf0d-dac0bda4452d@googlegroups.com> <80a5802d-1ca1-4c5c-a4ab-df0e74ba819e@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: Ndt9xVy5zYnxU2i8j/ehbw.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.3 Content-Language: en-US Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:51181 Date: 2018-03-23T21:06:59+01:00 List-Id: On 2018-03-23 19:31, Dan'l Miller wrote: > On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 12:18:52 PM UTC-5, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> On 2018-03-23 17:16, Dan'l Miller wrote: >>> On Friday, March 23, 2018 at 7:59:38 AM UTC-5, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >>>> On 23/03/2018 13:31, Alejandro R. Mosteo wrote: >>>> >>>>> I (humbly) think that people not knowing Rx but arguing against it are >>>>> barking at the wrong tree. >>>> >>>> Yes, but this is a natural defense reflex against snake oil sellers. >>> >>> But, Dmitry, you cocoon yourself in a layer of ignorance-is-BLISS (substituting several topics for that old DEC language) or perhaps even more than one layer. >> >> Sure. >> >>> To actually know that Rx and Ix are snake oil, you must first directly examine the actual product for sale, >> >> Impossible, there are too many sellers of that oil. Therefore the >> reaction goes towards the art of the presentation. When something is >> advertised as a new paradigm, groundbreaking, "how I lose my weight in >> just 1 week" etc, alarm bells start to ring. > > You sound like an anti-vaccination or anti-GMO person, who cannot even annunciate a path of inquiry that you yourself could travel to even consider the safety or lack thereof of vaccines or GMOs. Neither vaccination nor gene engineering is advertised as new paradigm. Anybody with a primary school education can reason about usefulness of these. But yes, if you are going to tell me about a new vaccine against cancer, influenza, short-sightedness and feet smell, the bells will start ringing. > For those people, vaccines and GMOs are verboten as pure (irrational?) belief system and no amount of rational thought or scientific-experiment evidence would convince them (to even open their mind to to the mere potential of being convinced), because rational thought and scientific-experiment evidence would threaten their sacred golden-calf that they worship. They spent so much time & effort smelting the gold to cast their golden-calf statue that they cannot give up on worshipping the golden calf now. You seem never heard anti-GMO people. Continental Europe is full of them. They don't understand rational arguments, in particular weighting risks against advantages. This has nothing to do with golden-calves. It is a "WHAT-IF" argumentation method. What if all water molecules in a boiling kettle will start to move in the same direction burning you to death? The probability is not zero, let's outlaw kettles. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de