From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: "functional" programming in Ada Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 09:41:18 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: MyFhHs417jM9AgzRpXn7yg.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 Content-Language: en-US X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.3 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:50871 Date: 2018-03-07T09:41:18+01:00 List-Id: On 06/03/2018 23:16, Manuel Collado wrote: > El 06/03/2018 a las 17:37, Dmitry A. Kazakov escribió: >> On 06/03/2018 17:00, Manuel Collado wrote: >>> >>> Well, it may sound a bit heterodox, but IMHO functional programming is >>> just a subset of imperative (= procedural) programming. >>> >>> - Functional programming = expressions >>> - Imperative programming = expressions + variables + procedural actions >> >> Imperative is in opposition to declarative. Another axis is stateless >> vs. stateful. Procedural is usually attributed to the method of >> decomposition: procedural vs. object vs. functional vs. data/event >> driven etc. >> >> Ada used to strictly separate imperative from declarative and took care >> about the states, especially about the correspondence between the >> program state and problem domain. Then Ada supported both procedural and >> object decomposition, even Ada 83 with its abstract data types. > > Did I mentioned the word "declarative"? > > Functional and declarative are different axis. Fans of functional > programming claim it is declarative "per se". Not me. > > Expressions without side-effects are functional, and not necessarily > declarative. Absence of side-effects does not make it functional: procedure Swap (X, Y : in out Integer); is imperative and has no side-effects. Stateless constructs, if that fiction exists, are functional and necessarily declarative. But I would attribute "functional" rather to the decomposition method. Other attributes are more of less consequences of choice. Standing on your head, changes the gait... (:-)) -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de