From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Submitting requests to the ARG, was: Re: stopping a loop iteration without exiting it Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 10:45:45 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <81971548-23c9-4927-a6a8-6f0f1dba896b@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: MyFhHs417jM9AgzRpXn7yg.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Language: en-US Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:49822 Date: 2018-01-09T10:45:45+01:00 List-Id: On 08/01/2018 22:48, Simon Clubley wrote: > On 2018-01-08, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> On 2018-01-08 21:57, Randy Brukardt wrote: >>> And if you don't ask, there is >>> absolutely no chance because it isn't on the ARG's radar. >> >> Making a formal request requires a language lawyer. Unfortunately there >> is no Ada public defender's office ... (:-)) > > I don't know if Dmitry is joking or not, but language lawyers most > certainly are _not_ required when submitting an issue to the ARG. > > You just need to provide clear examples of your reasoning and maybe > some suggestions about what you would like the new syntax or > semantics to look like and why. > > Most important however, is that you _MUST_ state at the beginning > of your submission what it is that you think Ada is missing and > what your proposal brings to Ada. > > Everything else in your proposal should follow on from that; there's > no point in submitting unstructured paragraphs of text to the ARG > that don't state _what_ you are asking to be fixed in Ada and why. > > Just make your submission readable, give _clear_ reasons for it, > and provide examples that clarify your reasoning or concerns. > > That's all I had to do. (Oh, and make sure you register for the > ARG mailing list so that you can read the responses; the initial > period after you submit your proposal is a two-way process where > you can respond to questions and comments about your proposal.) Sure. And representing the case in a favorable light is all what a lawyer does. He must push right buttons at right places, which not necessarily has anything to do with the merits of the proposal, especially of a trivial one like "raise when" or "goto ". -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de