From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Exception_Occurence and language designers Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 21:48:36 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: sWq1fEaAu/L5fGxxOY76vQ.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 Content-Language: en-US X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:49387 Date: 2017-12-05T21:48:36+01:00 List-Id: On 2017-12-05 21:05, G. B. wrote: > Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> On 05/12/2017 01:16, G. B. wrote: >> >>> How about this: the idea of creating normal, >>> typed objects as payload of wild jumps in >>> abnormal (exceptional) situations is rather optimistic. >> >> The problem is upward closures. (...): >> >> This works in C++ because there all types are global. > > Creating objects in exceptional situations, > if meaningfully possible at all, will work in > C++ as long as the programmer manages > to copy the closure of data into the thrown > object, IINM. In Ada it necessarily becomes type closure. No way you could marry static typing with that. >> Root_Exception_Attachment (...) >> >> Apart from being not very useful and requiring a lot of overhead > > If non-local jumps should pass information up the > call chain, then why not ask for a mechanism that > does just that? Fine, if you manage to express that mechanism in terms of static strong typing, be my guest. > Trying to load exceptions with this seems like misusing a concept. Which is why Ada 95 didn't do that. Exception_Occurrence is a plain type, no magic. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de