From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,a00006d3c4735d70 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f849b,b8d52151b7b306d2 X-Google-Attributes: gidf849b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-12-26 14:19:42 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!kibo.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!phaedsys.demon.co.uk!chris From: Chris Hills Newsgroups: comp.arch.embedded,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Certified C compilers for safety-critical embedded systems Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:10:30 +0000 Organization: Phaedrus Systems Message-ID: References: <3fe00b82.90228601@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <3FE026A8.3CD6A3A@yahoo.com> <$km9afA3DB7$EAYO@phaedsys.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: phaedsys.demon.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 1072477181 12570 80.176.226.26 (26 Dec 2003 22:19:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:19:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 M <7y9ouFdz6gbBVVTek6rkWKl0do> Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.arch.embedded:6133 comp.lang.ada:3829 Date: 2003-12-26T22:10:30+00:00 List-Id: In article , Larry Kilgallen writes >In article <$km9afA3DB7$EAYO@phaedsys.demon.co.uk>, Chris Hills > writes: >> In article <3fea086c.110513550@News.CIS.DFN.DE>, Dave Hansen >> writes > >>>But C can be, umm, subtle, and static checking tools (particularly >>>Lint) are IMHO _required_. Sadly, they're not often used. >> >> There is NO EXCUSE for not using a static analyser on C. > >Certainly there is an excuse -- it is not enforced by the compiler. > >That is quite different from the situation with Ada. So it all has to be enforced by the compiler? The main difference between C and ADa is that the average ADA programmer is in a safety critical environment. The average C programmer is not. If C program development was *normally* taught as though it was going to be used in a safety critical environment I think things would change. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/\ /\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org www.phaedsys.org \/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/