From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Victor Porton Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Why stack can hold indefinite objects but records cannot? Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 23:31:49 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: edFHTOfx8phAphItWrZ8cQ.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: KNode/4.14.10 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:49223 Date: 2017-11-28T23:31:49+02:00 List-Id: Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > On 2017-11-28 21:31, Victor Porton wrote: >> Why is it OK to create an indefinite object as a local variable ("on >> stack") but not OK to put an indefinite object into a record? > > It is OK in both cases. You must provide the constraint that is. > >> By the way, how indefinite local variables can be implemented? (just >> curious) > > They cannot, there is no such thing. > > A variable can hold a value which constraints vary. Each value is > constrained. These either deploy a maximum allocation length like > bounded strings or hidden referential semantics like unbounded strings. > >> Moreover, wouldn't it to be a good idea to allow indefinite objects in >> records (thus making the record itself indefinite, even if it has no >> discriminants)? > > It is a bad idea because there is no straightforward implementation of. > > The proper solution is to have an abstract record interface which would > allow anything appear a record member whereas the implementation would > be left to the user. The compiler should provide simple implementation > of that out of the box, maybe even less than it does already. But for the stack this is implemented. I don't understand why the same cannot be done for records. -- Victor Porton - http://portonvictor.org