From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Victor Porton Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: some trivial questions? Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 02:19:09 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <6a5368c5-f015-4dcb-9291-e77b40fa1bf1@googlegroups.com> <87mv3fdsi3.fsf@nightsong.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: edFHTOfx8phAphItWrZ8cQ.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: KNode/4.14.10 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: feeder.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:49080 Date: 2017-11-23T02:19:09+02:00 List-Id: Randy Brukardt wrote: > "Paul Rubin" wrote in message > news:87mv3fdsi3.fsf@nightsong.com... >> "Randy Brukardt" writes: >>> Of course, a true proof is hard to do when the rules are primarily >>> modeled >>> in English as opposed to some formal system. >> >> I'm surprised Ada doesn't have a formal semantics. Maybe that's >> something that should be fixed? > > That was attempted during Ada 9x, but the problem was that there was no Attempted in 90th?! Which formal proof assistant was used? > way for normal humans to see if the formal semantics in fact properly > modeled the language. Only the authors actually understood the formal > model. > > Creating a model that both formal and understandable by a run-of-the-mill > language lawyer and finding volunteers to create the model seems unlikely > (to say the least). > > Randy. -- Victor Porton - http://portonvictor.org