From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5faad1722103f6a7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: controlnews3.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!nwrdny01.gnilink.net.POSTED!c2bfcbcf!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: 7E7 Flight Controls Electronics References: <90Stc.15309$be.3117@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <40b86431$0$186$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk> <40B888E0.5040707@noplace.com> Message-ID: From: "Ed Falis" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Opera M2/7.50 (Linux, build 673) Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 13:35:26 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.154.127.60 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrdny01.gnilink.net 1085837726 141.154.127.60 (Sat, 29 May 2004 09:35:26 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 09:35:26 EDT Xref: controlnews3.google.com comp.lang.ada:909 Date: 2004-05-29T13:35:26+00:00 List-Id: On Sat, 29 May 2004 12:58:41 GMT, Marin David Condic wrote: > > Of course if you've allowed for it in the schedule, you won't slip the > schedule. That depends on your experience with development of similar > systems. If Ada has a demonstrable edge in this area (cost and schedule) > then a competitor ought to be able to bid the job lower, wouldn't you > think? > > So where are the Ada shops willing to take on the development and offer > a lower price? Why isn't there some embedded system development company > that is agressively going after these projects and offering Ada with a > cost advantage? If they had a bunch of reusable components for the > problem domain and they were DO-178b certified, they'd have all that > leverage to bring to the table too. > > We can claim that Ada is superior and bitch because someone else won't > see that and use it and call them boneheads for doing so. Alternately, > if we really believed in its superiority, we'd have companies offering > an Ada alternative and be out-competing the other bidders with low > cost/high quality alternatives. I guess Ada needs a little more > entrepreneurial spirit if it expects to get in the door on these things. > ;-) Jeez Marin, Reading an awful lot into a single job ad, don't you think? See http://www.windriver.com/news/press/20040330b.html regarding the selection of Wind River's AE653 RTOS for the core avionics. See http://www.smiths-aerospace.com/Press/Publication/default.asp?PublicationID=75765A3F-1497-4802-BBE0-69EAFC2E63A0&Type=Press for info about Smiths Aerospace and the 7E7 program. See http://www.gnat.com/pressroom_11.php for the AdaCore announcement. - Ed