From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-10 17:16:12 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!nwrdny02.gnilink.net.POSTED!c2bfcbcf!not-for-mail Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing new scripting/prototyping Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: Message-ID: From: Ed Falis Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Opera7.23/Linux M2 build 518 Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 00:16:11 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.154.31.41 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrdny02.gnilink.net 1081642571 141.154.31.41 (Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:16:11 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 20:16:11 EDT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6962 Date: 2004-04-11T00:16:11+00:00 List-Id: On Sat, 10 Apr 200 > Why is everyone so determine to miss the point? Because it was a good laugh to imagine getting paid 10x what a C programmer does? > > The numbers are wrong, irrelevant, and bogus. > The point is that we Ada fans are so far out-numbered > that (as Marin has been insisting for ages) we have to do > something really good, not try to compete on the turf that > they have _already_ captured. > Sure the numbers you used were fabricated. I don't know the answer to the question, Wes. I spent a good 10+ years selling and marketing Ada, trying to do the unconventional things to make it work in new areas - trying to view the possibilities that were outside the box. Most of those efforts came up empty - except its use for safety-critical applications. And you must believe me, its use there took a lot of innovative marketing and technical work, not to mention organization and infrastructure building within at least one of the larger aerospace companies. - Ed