From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Community Input for the Maintenance and Revision of the Ada Programming Language Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 18:59:05 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <915874b5-52c0-4aa8-9023-82fddedb816f@googlegroups.com> <67345f73-530c-400b-9eb4-63eeb440154c@googlegroups.com> <9a6338d9-83be-4e45-b8b7-edc56e33537f@googlegroups.com> <2deb28e2-f7e8-4461-b8b8-c2c6cf2784aa@googlegroups.com> <5de470d2-aa3d-4c02-ae2b-266c33a289fe@googlegroups.com> <5126ef7a-3324-4e44-b110-5e4838189f5f@googlegroups.com> <3c76c2ed-319f-410c-8dec-6a80a0948c7a@googlegroups.com> <1c8a3a96-1cdb-4c16-9c25-2da9bbf52cc9@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: MajGvm9MbNtGBKE7r8NgYA.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Language: en-US Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:48072 Date: 2017-09-12T18:59:05+02:00 List-Id: On 2017-09-12 18:47, Egil H H wrote: > On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 6:40:53 PM UTC+2, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> >> Do you imply that Bounded_String deploys heap? I would consider such >> implementation a bug. Otherwise you will need two instances and two >> different types, which is not the intended use. > > No, but they don't use default discriminants.... Right, but discriminant is a natural way to express constraint in Ada. Formal generic parameter is a very bad way doing that. As for having default value it is a requirement to have the type constrained, which is a requirement to make assignment work. Which has undesired implications on the type representation. Sigh. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de