From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Community Input for the Maintenance and Revision of the Ada Programming Language
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 15:14:01 +0200
Date: 2017-09-12T15:14:01+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <op8mio$1scc$1@gioia.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5de470d2-aa3d-4c02-ae2b-266c33a289fe@googlegroups.com
On 12/09/2017 14:56, Egil H H wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 2:09:53 PM UTC+2, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>>
>> The same way I supposed to choose it for Ada.Strings.Bounded?
>
> What? That it shouldn't be a generic? That would bring us back to
> allocating huge amounts of memory per string...
How? What is the difference between giving the bound in a generic
instantiation vs in a type declaration?
>> As I said there is almost no use for bounded-length strings.
>
> You may not have need for it. That doesn't necessarily make it true
> for the rest of the world.
I didn't say that. I said that there is no use case for it. Which is not
same. Regarding the rest of the world, it is even simpler. It is a mere
empirical fact relatively easy to measure. Take available Ada code base
and compare how frequently various types of strings are used there.
That nobody actually uses bounded strings does not necessary mean that
there is no use of bounded strings. Maybe people are uneducated, have
prejudices etc. But no the thing is indeed useless, therefore not used.
Could be quietly removed from the standard, nobody would notice...
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2017-08-03 5:45 Community Input for the Maintenance and Revision of the Ada Programming Language Randy Brukardt
2017-08-03 12:06 ` Lucretia
2017-08-03 12:52 ` Lucretia
2017-08-09 21:08 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-08-09 21:12 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-08-10 14:43 ` Lucretia
2017-08-10 15:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-11 1:27 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-11 1:24 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-11 5:54 ` G.B.
2017-08-10 5:41 ` G.B.
2017-08-10 14:41 ` Lucretia
2017-08-10 15:25 ` J-P. Rosen
2017-08-10 15:42 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-08-10 15:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-11 0:56 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-11 1:10 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-11 22:43 ` Shark8
2017-08-12 2:40 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-08-11 14:42 ` Justin Sq
2017-08-11 14:48 ` jsquirek
2017-08-11 17:10 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-08-11 17:24 ` Justin Sq
2017-08-11 20:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-11 21:13 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-18 21:06 ` Robert Eachus
2017-08-31 0:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-31 7:36 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-08-31 9:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-31 12:49 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-08-31 13:16 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-31 14:09 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-08-31 14:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-31 15:45 ` Simon Wright
2017-08-31 16:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-31 18:51 ` Georg Bauhaus
2017-08-31 23:54 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-01 3:51 ` Justin Sq
2017-09-01 7:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-09-01 12:23 ` jsquirek
2017-09-03 1:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-18 20:33 ` Robert Eachus
2017-08-19 1:24 ` Shark8
2017-08-19 8:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-19 16:38 ` Shark8
2017-08-19 17:09 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-22 6:02 ` Robert Eachus
2017-08-22 7:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-26 4:41 ` Robert Eachus
2017-08-26 6:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-26 7:16 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-08-26 7:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-27 12:03 ` Robert Eachus
2017-08-27 12:35 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-27 14:44 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-08-27 16:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-19 8:47 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-10 12:18 ` J-P. Rosen
2017-08-10 12:40 ` Lucretia
2017-08-10 15:17 ` J-P. Rosen
2017-08-11 8:33 ` AdaMagica
2017-08-10 16:28 ` Pascal Obry
2017-08-10 16:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-10 17:08 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-08-10 17:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-11 1:02 ` Lucretia
2017-08-11 6:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-11 20:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-10 17:06 ` Luke A. Guest
2017-08-11 1:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-08-11 6:24 ` G.B.
2017-08-11 7:57 ` Stefan.Lucks
2017-08-11 8:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-11 8:53 ` Stefan.Lucks
2017-08-11 9:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-11 9:22 ` AdaMagica
2017-08-12 18:29 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-08-29 16:01 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2017-08-09 15:24 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-08-09 17:23 ` Shark8
2017-08-09 18:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-08-31 6:59 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-08-28 23:49 ` faryumg
2017-08-29 8:17 ` Simon Wright
2017-08-31 13:35 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-09-02 10:49 ` Vincent DIEMUNSCH
2017-09-02 11:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-09-02 11:21 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-09-02 15:22 ` Vincent DIEMUNSCH
2017-09-02 17:19 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-09-04 20:52 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-09-03 1:30 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-06 15:02 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-09-06 15:57 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-09-06 18:56 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-09-06 21:21 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-08 21:04 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-09-08 21:46 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-09-08 23:55 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-09-16 12:49 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-09-16 13:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-09-17 11:05 ` AdaMagica
2017-09-17 12:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-09-08 22:13 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-09-10 21:09 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
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2017-10-02 19:01 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-08 23:07 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-09 20:35 ` Johan Söderlind Åström
2017-10-02 18:57 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-09 14:48 ` G.B.
2017-09-03 1:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-03 10:32 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2017-09-03 12:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-09-05 22:25 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-05 22:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-09-02 16:49 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-09-03 10:34 ` Alejandro R. Mosteo
2017-09-02 17:08 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2017-09-06 16:38 ` Vincent DIEMUNSCH
2017-09-06 20:52 ` Egil H H
2017-09-06 21:30 ` Randy Brukardt
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2017-09-06 6:15 ` Shark8
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2017-09-01 14:47 ` J-P. Rosen
2017-09-01 16:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2017-09-01 17:53 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
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