From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Community Input for the Maintenance and Revision of the Ada Programming Language Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:33:08 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: References: <915874b5-52c0-4aa8-9023-82fddedb816f@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: MajGvm9MbNtGBKE7r8NgYA.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 Content-Language: en-US X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:48010 Date: 2017-09-11T21:33:08+02:00 List-Id: On 2017-09-11 20:49, Tarjei Jensen wrote: > It is time to get counted strings into the standard. There is no use for specifically reference-counted strings because strings are practically never assigned as a whole in properly written programs. There are Unbounded_Strings to have dynamically-bound strings, which is not quite same as reference-counted ones, though I see no reason why an implementation of it cannot be reference-counted. > The key to counted strings is that they need to be first class > objects. The compiler must know how to handle them. The use-case for reference-counted strings, if there is any then for concurrent access. This would require a lot of locking when handling the reference count and a lot of copying in order to clone concurrently written string body. > I strongly believe that implementing it as a general Ada feature will be ineffective. Any general purpose implementation of will be, see above. For single task access existing string types are sufficient. > I know that it will be tempting to do so, but RESIST!!!!!! Why? It is quite trivial. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de