From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: a new language, designed for safety ! Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 08:42:58 +0200 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: <1402308235.2520.153.camel@pascal.home.net> <85ioo9yukk.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <255b51cd-b23f-4413-805a-9fea3c70d8b2@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: fbKJmtPSSj0HseXh5EvkHg.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:187230 Date: 2014-06-25T08:42:58+02:00 List-Id: Le Thu, 12 Jun 2014 09:01:10 +0200, Simon Clubley = a =C3=A9crit: > On 2014-06-11, Jeffrey Carter wro= te: >> On 06/11/2014 12:32 AM, Simon Clubley wrote: >>> On 2014-06-10, Jeffrey Carter = >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> If it's targeted by a C compiler then it's targeted by an Ada = >>>> compiler. >>> >>> That doesn't make sense. >>> >>> Some random examples: >>> >>> What about the various microcontrollers you can buy which have C >>> available but not a Ada compiler ? >>> >>> What about IBM's AS/400 or MVS systems ? >>> >>> What about a usable version of Ada for the PIC32MX ? >> >> What about the AdaMagic compiler that uses ANSI C as its intermediate= >> language? >> > > The AdaMagic compiler is utterly unsuitable here. > > In a world where development environments are available for free, you > are not going to persuade people to try Ada by telling them they have > to pay mega dollars/mega pounds for a Ada to C compiler. > > When you are doing development in a corporate environment on productio= n > systems, then a paid for solution makes very good sense. When you are > trying to persuade new people to adopt Ada, it does not. > > Simon. > Even if it's (or would be) low cost? -- = =E2=80=9CSyntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.=E2=80=9D [1] =E2=80=9CStructured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.= =E2=80=9D [1] [1]: Epigrams on Programming =E2=80=94 Alan J. =E2=80=94 P. Yale Univers= ity