From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,39579ad87542da0e X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 X-Received: by 10.224.200.202 with SMTP id ex10mr22357822qab.8.1368583776912; Tue, 14 May 2013 19:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Path: y6ni44346qax.0!nntp.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border4.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!nrc-news.nrc.ca!News.Dal.Ca!news.litech.org!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Seeking for papers about tagged types vs access to subprograms Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 09:46:40 +0200 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: <17ceq51ydy3s0.s94miqqzbg5w.dlg@40tude.net> <1vrhb7oc4qbob$.q02vuouyovp5$.dlg@40tude.net> <19lrzzbgm77v6.1dzpgqckptaj6.dlg@40tude.net> <1bfhq7jo34xpi.p8n2vq6yjsea.dlg@40tude.net> <12gn9wvv1gwfk.10ikfju4rzmnj.dlg@40tude.net> <1oy5rmprgawqs.1jz36okze0xju$.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: Sz+Cz+YCi2SKRtUDNsu0BQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.15 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Date: 2013-05-11T09:46:40+02:00 List-Id: Le Sat, 11 May 2013 02:42:37 +0200, Randy Brukardt = a =C3=A9crit: > I don't think operations have anything to do with types: they *use* = > types, > they aren't part of them in any way. The "profile" of objects determin= es > what operations can be used with them. Well, =E2=80=9Cthey use=E2=80=9D or =E2=80=9Cthey provides=E2=80=9D or =E2= =80=9Cthey comes with=E2=80=9D, ends to be all = the same: that's a system of interdependent things. A type may depends o= n = a function to create its instances, at least in the public view, as much= = as sub=E2=80=91programs depends on types, and there are optional and req= uired = dependencies (if optional, better in child or other packages). To be checked: do all formalism use functions and types at their core = basis or are there some formalisms which only uses functions and defines= = types in terms of functions (I will check it a future day, I believe the= = latter is the is true, while not sure). -- = =E2=80=9CSyntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.=E2=80=9D [1] =E2=80=9CStructured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.= =E2=80=9D [1] [1]: Epigrams on Programming =E2=80=94 Alan J. =E2=80=94 P. Yale Univers= ity