From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,39579ad87542da0e X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 X-Received: by 10.66.67.37 with SMTP id k5mr4870677pat.22.1368583609301; Tue, 14 May 2013 19:06:49 -0700 (PDT) Path: bp1ni2274pbd.1!nntp.google.com!npeer03.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border4.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!nrc-news.nrc.ca!News.Dal.Ca!news.litech.org!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Seeking for papers about tagged types vs access to subprograms Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 14:59:04 +0200 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: <1vrhb7oc4qbob$.q02vuouyovp5$.dlg@40tude.net> <19lrzzbgm77v6.1dzpgqckptaj6.dlg@40tude.net> <1bfhq7jo34xpi.p8n2vq6yjsea.dlg@40tude.net> <12gn9wvv1gwfk.10ikfju4rzmnj.dlg@40tude.net> <1cir6d72wemw.qxx9mozot7hl.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: uGUognJZXpdb++Da0QvCqg.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.15 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 X-Received-Bytes: 3325 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Date: 2013-05-10T14:59:04+02:00 List-Id: Le Fri, 10 May 2013 14:40:00 +0200, Yannick Duch=C3=AAne (Hibou57) = a =C3=A9crit: > Le Fri, 10 May 2013 14:15:35 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov = > a =C3=A9crit: >>> If so, that's indeed be true, as the program can then >>> be derived, but there is not a single possible derivation, there are= >>> typically multiple solutions, so the program still requires human >>> intervention to be generated. >> >> Human intervention is needed to handle the semantics, not because of >> multiplicity of implementations. You could choose them randomly. > > You can't choose randomly, the program must have runtime properties as= = > well. I should have given another example, a more obvious one: as the program = = derivation is a consequence of a proof the specification is satisfiable = = (the proof and the program are the same thing), automated program = generation from the specification, would implies automated proof. This = does not exist with the actual technology, if not for trivial stuffs. So= = far you have proof assistants, not automated provers (just some steps of= = proofs may be automated, if the user request some help from the assistan= t=E2=80=A6 = but it may fail and it's not usable for program generation as far as I = know). -- = =E2=80=9CSyntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.=E2=80=9D [1] =E2=80=9CStructured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.= =E2=80=9D [1] [1]: Epigrams on Programming =E2=80=94 Alan J. =E2=80=94 P. Yale Univers= ity