From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,3025dd6d917b499c X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Received: by 10.180.84.234 with SMTP id c10mr2076684wiz.4.1350604699095; Thu, 18 Oct 2012 16:58:19 -0700 (PDT) X-FeedAbuse: http://nntpfeed.proxad.net/abuse.pl feeded by 88.191.116.97 Path: q11ni134368527wiw.1!nntp.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!nntpfeed.proxad.net!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada, the best language with the not-so-best tool chain Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 01:58:12 +0200 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: <38af7fb8-b0a4-4a31-87aa-b7b698cc89c3@googlegroups.com> <3ca0ffd0-1764-484b-8fab-17c0d2dd9463@googlegroups.com> <1f645050-cf4c-40bf-a797-9687b69e4a54@googlegroups.com> <18ats2960nsvm$.kfufsnul13aq$.dlg@40tude.net> <5072c9ae$0$6562$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <4keoa6epdxt7.1nnwxy7v7ar90.dlg@40tude.net> <5072dc68$0$6554$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <1f7cmfp1l65w1.1deog8cfxbs0u$.dlg@40tude.net> <5072e37a$0$6556$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: H5WtUSoFG7aj9zQnJ7RbaQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.02 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Date: 2012-10-19T01:58:12+02:00 List-Id: Le Fri, 19 Oct 2012 00:52:09 +0200, Jeffrey Carter = a =C3=A9crit: > On 10/18/2012 03:33 PM, Randy Brukardt wrote: > > > > That's the reality -- and it isn't likely to change. Unless the boa= rd > > manufacturers themselves start supporting Ada development systems, = I = > don't > > think there will ever be many choices for bare/small targets. = > (Especially as > > Ada *never* has been used for small targets, even back in the 1980s= = > when > > there was a lot of pressure from the DoD to do so.) > > Wasn't the "Ada Beats Assembler" project a small target? I recall that= = > the expectation was that Ada would be neither small enough to fit in t= he = > available memory nor fast enough to meet the real-time deadlines; in t= he = > end, Ada was faster and smaller than assembler. Something you made me remember about: [Ada Outperforms Assembly: A Case = Study](http://www.seas.gwu.edu/~adagroup/sigada-website/lawlis.html) -- = =E2=80=9CSyntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.=E2=80=9D [1] =E2=80=9CStructured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.= =E2=80=9D [1] [1]: Epigrams on Programming =E2=80=94 Alan J. =E2=80=94 P. Yale Univers= ity