From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,9983e856ed268154 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Received: by 10.66.72.165 with SMTP id e5mr2024624pav.4.1345494426482; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.181.11.234 with SMTP id el10mr2062160wid.2.1345494426108; Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Path: kg8ni7725pbc.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!yt1no33781794wib.1!news-out.google.com!q11ni230916066wiw.1!nntp.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Vasiliy Molostov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Should Inline be private in the private part of a package spec? Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:27:04 +0400 Organization: None Message-ID: References: <501bd285$0$6564$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <502b832f$0$6579$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <502bc4df$0$6574$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <502bd3e6$0$6574$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <17qgsq5y7or0v.16z18fmcew1lt$.dlg@40tude.net> <502c149e$0$6579$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <502cd701$0$6568$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <502d3c68$0$6572$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <502e9039$0$6557$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <40tmogy4d1b5.1kc2gm8qfrkdu.dlg@40tude.net> <503240ed$0$6569$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <50326457$0$6576$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <1qril0ny3eczr$.1vlhpbrjyyb8k.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: Xw13RWgh8yxgPSv0x3+H9w.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.01 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Date: 2012-08-21T00:27:04+04:00 List-Id: Dmitry A. Kazakov =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0= =BB(=D0=B0) =D0=B2 =D1=81=D0=B2=D0=BE=D1=91=D0=BC =D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D1=8C= =D0=BC=D0=B5 Mon, = 20 Aug 2012 23:28:20 +0400: >> Related Example that has been part of this discussion, >> and concern compiler configuration files: > > We have an excellent example how unmanageable Visual Studio became whe= n = > MS > switched to XML. It is an MS matters, take a look at eclipse, grails, itelliJ and the res= t = (tremendous amount), aptana for example even instead of xml uses yaml (which is successfully = = adopted in ruby). > I am sure that it also could be demonstrated with all scientific scrut= iny > that XML is a poor choice for compiler configuration. Not a configuration I meant, but an analog of bunch of ALI files in a = folder, I dont know why you or your opponent refer to configuration. > As a hint observe > that configuration is no way hierarchical, that as any non-trivial thi= ng = > it > must have several UIs very different ones and different from the = > interface > of the compiler itself. Since it is for automated transform of such data - where do you plan to = = attach a gui? it is a scripting language, like bash. > That it is non-trivial implies that the > configuration has a *semantics* far beyond dumb string to string mappi= ng > which is all so-called XML "language" can offer. but these (the same) complicated semantics well expressed in xmi (which = is = xml indeed) in any UML related tool - it is a good place for GUI access and control (already existent), if you= = wish. > But you forgot that you once called XML documentation. It became a = > language > by now? "Moving target?" XML =3D eXtensible Markup Language. -- = =D0=9D=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B2 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=87= =D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=BC =D0=BA=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5= =D0=B1=D1=80=D0=B0=D1=83=D0=B7=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B0 Opera: http://www.oper= a.com/mail/