From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,25457a5aee9eaa04 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Received: by 10.68.219.170 with SMTP id pp10mr793322pbc.1.1338330408801; Tue, 29 May 2012 15:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Path: pr3ni63752pbb.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Fuzzy machine learning framework v1.2 Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 00:26:46 +0200 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: <4fc4fd1c$0$294$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <3MDSK83K41059.2087037037@reece.net.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: nfPTFtClSx2BMHV6eB3BKQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Date: 2012-05-30T00:26:46+02:00 List-Id: Le Tue, 29 May 2012 23:00:32 +0200, Kulin a =C3=A9= crit: > I don't agree. The GPL is not about software licensing. It's about = > socialist Please, stop with politic here. Further more, it makes many different = senses depending on the country you live in, and this Usenet is = international, not just an United=E2=80=91State Usenet (french user talk= ing here). > Freedom is a word that is well-defined. Stallman is a damn liar for = > twisting the definition completely out of reality Talking about twisting, I wonder if there is even an issue to twist = license issues when the effective issue is indeed about twisting with th= e = reality (as you named it), I mean disconnection between the real society= = and a software world which look like to live in a vacuum (is that the = correct English expression for the french =C2=AB vivre dans une bulle =C2= =BB?). I feel many people run around the topic, but miss the real topic. Face i= t: = when do complains about GPL comes? Answer: when it disallow commercial = activities, and further more, states it's bad. Yes, I know officially GP= L = does not disallow it, but every one know it disallow it in practice, and= = comes with a culture which say so. If the GPL also came with something t= o = solve that paradox, there would be less complains, but it don't, indeed.= That's what I meant some days ago, and today as well, when I said the re= al = issue is culture. Here indeed, instead of solving a trouble, the GPL mak= e = it worst. But that's not the GPL who created it. By the way, the license= = is not what matters to people, its the price. Indeed, as the GPL said = =E2=80=9Ceverything must allow redistribution at no charge=E2=80=9D, it = get a lot of = echoes and propagated with the help of that. But the same is here with = BSD. Release what you want under BSD license or *what ever license you = want*, this issue will still be the same, with people thinking things ar= e = as much easily made as copied. In short, the GPL enforced that belief, b= ut = did not originate that belief, it has a responsibility in the situation,= = but is not the cause. My assumption here is that people don't mind so much to provide their = source (potentially at extra cost) but minds about giving up everything = = for free (as in free as in beer), while they may be other reasons where = = one may wish to not release sources, to avoid modified versions to be = distributed or some others, but these are not the most common case. Why not switch to =E2=80=9Chow to setup a commercial plan for XYZ applic= ation=E2=80=9D = instead of going on with this topic which, I know it, will not give bett= er = than what it already gave? -- = =E2=80=9CSyntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.=E2=80=9D [1] =E2=80=9CStructured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.= =E2=80=9D [1] [1]: Epigrams on Programming =E2=80=94 Alan J. =E2=80=94 P. Yale Univers= ity