From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,25457a5aee9eaa04 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Received: by 10.68.220.230 with SMTP id pz6mr9863100pbc.3.1338307912293; Tue, 29 May 2012 09:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Path: pr3ni62799pbb.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Fuzzy machine learning framework v1.2 Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 18:11:50 +0200 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: <1962744539359908272.324914rm-host.bauhaus-maps.arcor.de@news.arcor.de> <87k3zwp0xw.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <4fc498ff$0$6548$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: bo8TexdhGtoP8EHuZv7HTg.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Date: 2012-05-29T18:11:50+02:00 List-Id: Le Tue, 29 May 2012 11:38:02 +0200, Georg Bauhaus = a =C3=A9crit: > It is stunning to see programmers who are used to formal, > rational thinking, becoming irrational. ;-) ;-) > > The *combination* of someone else's work and yours is not your own > work! On the opposite, that's rational and practical. There is an issue with = proper measure of things here. Think about the extreme case of a single = = line of GPL in a million lines=E2=80=A6 you see? To summarize, if you ju= st did = some tiny stuff or some easy bug fix, that's not an issue, but if you di= d = more big things during months, better not create the big thing on a GPL = = component and recreate the GPL component if needed (and give up and do = nothing if the GPL component is too big). There is also an issue with = linking, even if you clearly keep yours and others separate, you are sti= ll = in trouble, even if you did not derive from another ones work, but added= = something which link to it (via non-LGPL libraries or via object files),= = what you added, is not yours in practice, as you cannot decide what the = = license of your own part is. Or else you have to redistribute only you o= wn = source part, and require consumers to build all, which is not what = consumers usually want (there want something ready to use). Better a = proprietary license which allow you to distribute a ready to use = application, than such a burden to you and users. > The resulting work is *not* the sole intellectual property > of either contributor. Here is the point. But the story goes as if it was the sole property of = = the initial authors, which decided of everything for all others who = succeed him. That said, as already noticed, this does not prevent anyone to simply = avoid GPL and to rely on their own only (fortunately, Stallman could not= = find a way to force all authors to use the GPL for their original work, = = but still sadly make many consumers think that's the only one legitimate= = license). But even then, there is still another issue involving culture, I will = express later in a reply to Simon (this will be a personal opinion again= ). -- = =E2=80=9CSyntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.=E2=80=9D [1] =E2=80=9CStructured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.= =E2=80=9D [1] [1]: Epigrams on Programming =E2=80=94 Alan J. =E2=80=94 P. Yale Univers= ity