From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,81bb2ce65a3240c3 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Received: by 10.68.227.230 with SMTP id sd6mr4274322pbc.8.1335401427639; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Path: r9ni98791pbh.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!volia.net!news2.volia.net!feed-A.news.volia.net!news.ecp.fr!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: What would you like in Ada202X? Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 02:50:26 +0200 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: <3637793.35.1335340026327.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynfi5> <4f97bf40$0$6559$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: K5u1qGRa7Tbvmpyn4gf6UQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.62 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Date: 2012-04-26T02:50:26+02:00 List-Id: Le Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:33:11 +0200, Jeffrey Carter = a =C3=A9crit: > On 04/25/2012 02:30 PM, Yannick Duch=C3=AAne (Hibou57) wrote: >> >> And you have to modify and respecify the package each time you want t= o = >> extend >> it? The child package way is more modular. > > Ada emphasizes ease of reading over ease of writing (this is and alway= s = > has been an explicit design goal stated at the beginning of the ARM); = = > programming by extension (and your comment) emphasizes ease of writing= = > over ease of reading. This is why I've always objected to including = > programming-by-extension features in Ada. Child package are not less readable, as all kind of modularity ease = understanding, be it either child packages or nested packages. However, = = there is another less mentioned =E2=80=94 while as much important =E2=80= =94 requirement of = Ada, which is project and source management (thus the =E2=80=9Cis separa= te=E2=80=9D). And = child packages ease project management, for the reason I gave. Also, chi= ld = packages allows for optional additions or various alternatives for a giv= en = addition, by means of project configuration: just remove the path to a s= et = of child packages source and specs, to remove it from a project. With = nested package, you have to modify the package each time. Getting ride of child packages (as back to Ada 83), would promise = nightmares for many ones. -- = =E2=80=9CSyntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.=E2=80=9D [1] =E2=80=9CStructured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.= =E2=80=9D [1] [1]: Epigrams on Programming =E2=80=94 Alan J. =E2=80=94 P. Yale Univers= ity