From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,6487f59679c615d8 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Received: by 10.68.231.2 with SMTP id tc2mr689394pbc.8.1336611454522; Wed, 09 May 2012 17:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Path: pr3ni8081pbb.0!nntp.google.com!news2.google.com!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada Reference Manual 2012 in info format Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 02:57:32 +0200 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: <82aa1ud0l3.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <20120509131736.63c924c8@vostro> <17qiwxc1yxhx7$.11tflala8jabh$.dlg@40tude.net> <4faa7790$0$9508$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <1qod0a82z1gx4.6ncrd98m7cz3.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: chlwJfq4Tt07B8rNRSOa5g.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.00 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Date: 2012-05-10T02:57:32+02:00 List-Id: Le Wed, 09 May 2012 16:09:10 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov = a =C3=A9crit: > On Wed, 09 May 2012 15:56:32 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote: > >> On 09.05.12 15:00, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >>> On Wed, 09 May 2012 07:06:06 -0500, Nasser M. Abbasi wrote: >>> >>>> I think XML is not good for math. >>> >>> XML is not good for anything. I don't care about Web but in = >>> automation it >>> becomes a growing problem that precious bandwidth and human resource= s = >>> are >>> spent on chewing XML mess. >> >> Writing math papers and making data traveling automation networks >> seem rather different use cases. > > Yes, though XML is usually advocated as a universal solution for > everything. Not for everything: for when a standard structured serialization is real= ly = better (and that's often the case). Then, XML does not came alone, it comes with XSLT, XPath, XQuery and = XProc, although these do not apply directly to the serialized data, but = to = the unserialized data tree (for XProc, as a pure pipelined stream). It = also comes with standard attributes (even outside of any document type = definition), like xml:id, xml:lang, whose content are as much formalized= = as XML is. -- = =E2=80=9CSyntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.=E2=80=9D [1] =E2=80=9CStructured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.= =E2=80=9D [1] [1]: Epigrams on Programming =E2=80=94 Alan J. =E2=80=94 P. Yale Univers= ity