From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: border1.nntp.ams3.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams3.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams2.giganews.com!border4.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada advocacy Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:34:29 +0200 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: <19595886.4450.1332248078686.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbbfy7> <2012032020582259520-rblove@airmailnet> <12ee9bc5-3bdf-4ac0-b805-5f10b3859ff4@googlegroups.com> <6c58fae4-6c34-4d7a-ab71-e857e55897c0@x6g2000vbj.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: Z+UZnJO9e89q1cqW+CZH4Q.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 X-Original-Bytes: 2686 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:183150 Date: 2013-08-27T15:34:29+02:00 List-Id: Le Tue, 18 Jun 2013 19:15:07 +0200, Robert A Duff = a =C3=A9crit: > Peter Brooks writes: > >> On Jun 18, 3:28 am, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: >>> >>> >>> Ada was basically the first LANGUAGE that defined = >>> multi-tasking IN THE >>> LANGUAGE itself. Before it, one had to use OS specific system calls = to >>> create tasks -- if such a call was even available, in contrast to = >>> creating >>> processes at the command line level. >>> >> The second. Algol68 did. > > Others, too. Per Brinch-Hansen's Concurrent Pascal, for example. It > has something-like Ada tasks (no rendezvous; no big loss), and > something-like Ada protected objects (without barriers -- that's > a big loss). > > But Dennis is mostly right -- in the olden days, concurrency was mostl= y > considered an OS issue. > Why did you said =E2=80=9Cno big loss=E2=80=9D about the rendez=E2=80=91= vous? What's your known = issues with rendez=E2=80=91vous? I never used concurrency a lot until no= w, so = that's really a question, because I may (or may not, I still don't know= ) = have to use it. -- = =E2=80=9CSyntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.=E2=80=9D [1] =E2=80=9CStructured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.= =E2=80=9D [1] [1]: Epigrams on Programming =E2=80=94 Alan J. =E2=80=94 P. Yale Univers= ity