From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Vocabulary matter: Component vs Element vs Item Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 21:12:25 +0200 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: <1l6m1yt.qd2fq61ydg9trN%csampson@inetworld.net> <415580c1-2655-419a-b7dd-bce59d8801e5@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ds8m8HfAx594C0h4s/JFyA.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.16 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:16529 Date: 2013-07-26T21:12:25+02:00 List-Id: Le Fri, 26 Jul 2013 20:29:05 +0200, Adam Beneschan = a =C3=A9crit: > On Friday, July 26, 2013 10:24:55 AM UTC-7, Charles H. Sampson wrote: > >> As a result, I don't feel competent to comment on any technical >> issues here, even from a historical perspective. However, I don't see= >> that "component", "element" and "item" are at all related in plain >> English. > > Looking it up in an (American) English dictionary, www.m-w.com: Both = > "component" and "element" seem to mainly refer to a "constituent part"= = > of something else. Merriam Webster seems to implies the same. > "Element" sometimes carries the connotation of being the most = > rudimentary (or "elementary") part, that can't be broken down into = > something else, UML and software literature seems to agree with this: components are mor= e = big things than elements. > but not always. Yes, a famous exception is an XML element. > (The elements in the periodic table were thought to be just those, = > substances that couldn't be broken down into smaller things, until = > protons and neutrons and electrons were discovered.) "Item" has one = > similar definition, "a distinct part in an enumeration, account, or = > series"; but another relevant definition is "an object of attention, = > concern, or interest", Merriam Webster says there is a now obsolete meaning, where Item was = designating a Warning or Hint. -- = =E2=80=9CSyntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.=E2=80=9D [1] =E2=80=9CStructured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.= =E2=80=9D [1] [1]: Epigrams on Programming =E2=80=94 Alan J. =E2=80=94 P. Yale Univers= ity