From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,f3bebae566a54cab X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,UTF8 Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!gegeweb.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Some exciting new trends in concurrency and software design Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 11:23:57 +0200 Organization: Ada @ Home Message-ID: References: <8a5765ba-622a-42cd-9886-28ed7cfed31e@s17g2000yqs.googlegroups.com> <4dff5be5$0$6565$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: HfNAdMB88ZE8crK0iV2fMQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Opera Mail/11.11 (Linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20010 Date: 2011-06-23T11:23:57+02:00 List-Id: Le Mon, 20 Jun 2011 16:40:36 +0200, Georg Bauhaus = a =C3=A9crit: > Not that it matters most, or is most important to the subject > of understanding modularity and parallelism, but I must mention > that there remain a few major blind spots in FP circles, IMHO. > It won't help as is. > > "There is nothing more dreary than the corporate > bureaucracy of OOP, and few things more lovely > than the mathematical elegance of FP." > > Yes, I'd agree that O-O bureaucracy and spaghetti code can be > correlated. Why, however, do we not seem to see bureaucracy in ML > source text? > > 0. There is less ML text. Different problem domains, too. > Perhaps suggesting a different kind of program right from the start. > > 1. Actually, they use imperative style or suitable contortions > in functional programming when efficiency is required. I remember > looking at the chapter on Fusions in Bird's FP in Haskell > book. The chapter's subject is messy, the approach produces > text similar to the lengthier noodles in Wirth's algorithms book, > conflating things for efficiency reasons. Where is the mathematical > elegance in that? My small-talk: this is simply failing with the simple rule which is =E2=80= =9Cuse = the best language for what it is best suited=E2=80=9D. Troubles comes wh= en you = want only one for everything. -- = =E2=80=9CSyntactic sugar causes cancer of the semi-colons.=E2=80=9D [Ep= igrams on = Programming =E2=80=94 Alan J. =E2=80=94 P. Yale University] =E2=80=9CStructured Programming supports the law of the excluded muddle.= =E2=80=9D [Idem] Java: Write once, Never revisit